Talk:History of poetry

Game Plan
OK, what to do with this article? My thought is this should focus on two areas: (1) the emergence of early poetic traditions and language and (2) the various articles on Wikipedi poeatry a focused on "National" poetries (e.g., British, Irish, Ottoman, etc.). in the National poetries, I think it should take an overarching view, looking not at the detail but instead at the interaction and development of the poetries at a higher level. I also think the article should tie in to the Years in poetry work set up by Stumps. Any thoughts before the serious work begins? Sam 16:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

My thoughts on this article and its comments made by others is: (1) This is a very intellectual article, but is does not express the early views of poetry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.7.51.11 (talk) 18:59, 3 January 2008 (UTC) 18:60

Poetry predates written text?
The very first sentence of this article claims that "Poetry predates written text." It uses the following link as a reference: https://www.yukon-news.com/news/poet-goes-from-newsprint-to-verse/

This reference is a very soft journalistic piece about a specific modern poet and does not itself justify that poetry does indeed predate written text in any way whatsoever.

Perhaps this claim should be removed from the article or at the very least the reference should be replaced with something more credible (I was not able to find a more credible reference for this claim in a short research session).

zomglings, 11 January, 2021 — Preceding undated comment added 21:43, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

I totally agree. A reference to Beissinger (2012) could work. But since there is no record, whether there was oral poetry before written poetry has to remain speculation. MH Beissinger. 2012. Oral poetry.The Princeton encyclopedia of poetry andpoetics, pages 978–81. TH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8108:9740:2A18:C806:E357:ECD:625D (talk) 10:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC) I changed it. TH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8108:9740:2A18:C806:E357:ECD:625D (talk) 11:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Stressed poetry
Ancient Greek 'pop culture' discovery rewrites history of poetry and song summarizes LESS CARE, MORE STRESS: A RHYTHMIC POEM FROM THE ROMAN EMPIRE. It claims the text moves forward the date of the transition from quantitative poetry to stressed poetry in Western poetry. I came here to read about that transition but I don't see it mentioned in the text. Is the transition mentioned in other words I didn't understand? If not, shouldn't it be explained in the article? --Error (talk) 11:50, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Where did poems come from?
Where did poems originally come from? 2601:1C1:8500:EE70:F5D1:F217:822A:4D6B (talk) 00:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Disclosed COI
Hi! My name is Noah, and I work for the Harold B. Lee Library at BYU. I'll be working on this page. Please feel free to reach out with any questions, comments, or concerns regarding any of the changes I make; also feel free to review my user page for questions regarding my background and my COIs. Noah Hickman (BYU) (talk) 22:21, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Poetics Section
I'm unsure that the "poetics" section deserves its own section in this article as such. Poetics relays the same information; maybe a "see also" link would be sufficient? Noah Hickman (BYU) (talk) 21:34, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Western-Centric
Hey folks - I've noticed a couple big gaps on the page that I want to fill. First, there's a big jump from ancient poetry to modern poetry that skips about 1500 years of writing. I feel comfortable with my abilities to fill those gaps, but I don't feel particularly expert in talking about eastern poetic traditions. I want to fill the chronological holes, but I don't want to inadvertently bias the page toward the west. I know enough about world literature to know that an equally rich poetic history evolved in the Asiatic, near-eastern, and African traditions over the course of the last two millennia. Is there someone with some training in those areas that could take on the task of sketching out that history? Noah Hickman (BYU) (talk) 21:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)