Talk:History of purgatory

Diego Gelmírez quotation
First, this should not have been removed because it was sourced: not just the quotation, but the interpretation. Take your beef up with Portela Silva, and Jacques Le Goff, whom she references in that same paragraph. Second, the quotation obviously does not indicate that Diego held to no belief about purgatory. That is not why it is significant. It is not something like a "proof" that nobody believed in purgatory in 1128. I was careful with my wording: "his words bear no indication that he believed in an intermediate state for Christians who died in their sins" is exactly right. Of course, it is possible that he did not believe his enemy was a Christian, but I'm not going to get into an extended argument about what twelfth-century Spanish clergy would have assumed. The source is sufficient to justify the text. Srnec (talk) 20:01, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Cross, 1912
One of our editors really likes this source: George Cross, "The Medieval Catholic Doctrine of the Future Life", in The Biblical World (1912). Unfortunately, it directly contradicts Le Goff's contemporary scholarship. We shouldn't be using a 1912 source that contradicts contemporary sources. If the information's out of date, we shouldn't use it, even if there's a source for it. In particular, Cross cites repeated visions of "purgatory," even though (per Le Goff) purgatory as a place wasn't born until the 11th century. Apparently these were visions of purgation or of afterlife lcoations similar to purgatory, but not to purgatory, per se. Leadwind (talk) 23:33, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Misleading Text in Header
I fail to see how ancient cultures praying for their dead is evidence that the 'Roman Catholic tradition existed before the time of Jesus'. Or how such prayers indicate that these persons believed in anything reminiscent of the Purgatory doctrine. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 14:57, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I fail to find where the article makes that claim. It does report what the Encyclopaedia Britannica says: "In general, the origins of purgatory may be sought in the worldwide practice of praying for the dead and caring for their needs. Such ministrations presuppose that the dead are in a temporal state between earthly life and their final abode and that they can benefit from the generosity or transferred merit of the living. [...]" Esoglou (talk) 15:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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Capital
Question: why is Purgatory capitalized? It's not a proper name, is it? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:40, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

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