Talk:History of rail transport in Turkey/Archive 1

Possible copyright/plagiarism problem
Hello. I created this page moving historical info from Turkish State Railways, but did not write the text.

Later I noticed that much of the text seems to follow very closely the linked article http://www.tcdd.gov.tr/tcdding/tarihce_ing.htm, specifically the structure, and content (with the exception of the tables).

Specifically I am concerned about similarities such as these:

Since most of the railways were concentrated in the western provinces of Turkey, the aim was to connect the central and eastern areas of the country with the major trade centres and the seaports. In this period, the newly built main routes were: Ankara - Kayseri - Sivas; Sivas - Erzurum (the Caucasus route); Samsun - Kalin (the Sivas route); Irmak - Filyos (the Zonguldak coal route); Adana - Fevzipaşa - Diyarbakır (the copper route); and Sivas - Çetinkaya (the iron route). Before the establishment of the Turkish Republic, 70% of the routes were to the west of the Ankara - Konya line. After 1923, 78.6% of the new lines were constructed in the east, and a balance of 46% to 54% was reached.

"In the second phase, since the biggest part of the existing railroad lines was concentrated in the Western region, it was aimed to connect the Central and Eastern regions of the country with centers and coasts. To this end, the mainlines were obtained by ensuring the direct connection of railroad lines with production centers. Main routes constructed at this period are: Ankara-Kayseri-Sivas, Sivas-Erzurum (Caucasus line), Samsun-Kalin ( Sivas ), Irmak-Filyos (Zonguldak coal line), Adana-Fevzipasa-Diyarbakir (Copper line), and Sivas-Çetinkaya (Iron line)r. Before the Republic 70% of the railroad lines were in the west of Ankara - Konya direction, after the Republic 78.6% were constructed in the east so that the current balance of 46% to 54% was reached in the East and West."

Is this acceptable, or not? It seems such a minor rewriting to constitute plagiarism.Shortfatlad (talk) 18:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2009_November_21 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.78.86 (talk) 19:45, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Copy vio - rewrite article
Since most of the article transfered from TCDD has copyright issues it seems sensible to start again. If anyone wants to start write the article please feel free, otherwise I will create a stub at a later date.Shortfatlad (talk) 19:05, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Section Rumeli railway (1870-)
I've tagged this as a potential copyright problem:
 * The user who added it has been asked to provid a reference and has not.
 * The user who added repeatedly readds material that was copied from another web-site (on this and other turkish railways pages)
 * The user who added it has never added any content of their own except this section. All their other edits focus on very minor rewriting of material added by other people.Shortfatlad (talk) 16:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Semi protection
Possibly copyrighted stuff is re-added by an anon user. The user's IP changes, and will not respond to any requests for help. Semi-protection would stop this.Shortfatlad (talk) 17:06, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Copyright
Copyright problems/2009 December 4Shortfatlad (talk) 19:04, 4 December 2009 (UTC)