Talk:History of rail transportation in California

Delisted GA
This article did not go through the current GA nomination process. Looking at the article as is, it fails on criteria 2b of the GA quality standards. Although references are provided, the citation of sources is essential for verifiability. Most Good Articles use inline citations. I would recommend that this be fixed, to reexamine the article against the GA quality standards, and to submit the article through the nomination process. --RelHistBuff 13:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Removal of discussion
Firstly, I must apologize as I did not put up the delist template properly when I delisted the article last month. However, I found that the comments I put above were edited out and replaced with a blank talk page! This is not proper Wikipedia etiquette. I have restored the comment from the history and added the delist template.

Secondly, the article was relisted as a Good Article without going through the proper GA nomination process. This violates the rule for reviewing “You cannot choose an article you've significantly contributed to.” I ask that you please respect the GA status and process and resubmit the article properly. RelHistBuff 10:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I've re-promoted the article based on the latest changes. Mdhennessey 21:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Recent edits
Folks - I hope you don't mind if I do a bit of editing - adding some more refs, cleaning up a few things (e.g., Oregon was admitted as a state in 1859, and Nevada in 1864, so California wasn't entirely "isolated" from all other states before the RR was built in 1869). NorCalHistory 02:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * You've done a great job! Bravo.

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Criticism of Corruption Section
This criticism was originally posted by User:70.137.180.222 in the article and is manually moved here by me. Frankly, this entire extended article on California railroad history is weak in the extreme. This section, allegedly about corruption and scandal, is probably the worst subsection of the lot. In addition to numerous mistakes regarding the general subject of railroad land-grands, and especially the Mussel Slough incident, the piece generally suffers from fatal oversimplification. Like the rest of the extended discussion of the state and its railroads, the flawed analysis results from limited notes and bibliography largely confined to older and very general and non-scholarly writings. User:70.137.180.222

--Kinglag (talk) 22:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Expansion of the Today section
Such entities as Amtrak California, BART, the Los Angeles metro, light rail, and other younger developments in rail transportation in California need to be explored more thoroughly. I have thus placed an template on that last section. 204.52.215.107 (talk) 23:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I can understand creating a "Today" section, but since a lot of 20th century history is covered by the specific topic like agriculture and oil, why is a separate 20th century section needed apart from the Today and the industry-specific discussions? Racepacket (talk) 10:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You are both right. Note that when 204.52.215.107's comment was made, the article was still called rail transport in California. 204.52.215.107 is correct in stating that the article is skewed and only covers the 19th century. A lot of modern history (such as that listed above) needs to be added. On the other hand, a new article, rail transport in California (that currently redirect to this article) needs to be created. Such an article would discuss the current mainline passenger and freight systems, rapid transit and light rail systems, policy, future plans and also a summary of the history section (and probably some other stuff). But again, please feel free to add the history of BART, Amtrak etc. Arsenikk  (talk)  12:46, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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