Talk:History of science fiction films

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"Except for Star Trek and Star Wars films, the only films set off Earth that appeared in the first half of the 2000s were the poorly received Mission to Mars and Serenity, a continuation of Joss Whedon's tv series Firefly."

As I came to this, Serenity had not even been released, just under a month from hitting theatres - so how accurate is it to say that it's been poorly received? Since I haven't been following reports and updates of the film, I'm going to leave that to someone else to sort out. --Bacteria 12:42, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Many of the assertions made after the "1980s" section deserve to be looked at very critically. See: "Except for Star Trek and Star Wars films, the only films set off Earth that appeared in the first half of the 2000s were Serenity and the poorly received Mission to Mars and Red Planet."

Whoever wrote this section not only gave in to some pretty rampant speculation with no evidence cited (i.e. Star Trek: Nemesis' failure as a factor in the author's perceived overall failure of space sci-fi), but ignored several key films during the time period mentioned, many of which took place in part or in whole in space. Soderberg's Solaris remake, etc. While the author states that fantasy has taken over the role previously filled by sci-fi, that's only really true for huge-budget films, i.e. the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter type record-smashers. It could be argued that the first decade of the 21st century has so far seen science fiction moving from its blockbuster roots and getting smarter, leaner, and scrappier in smaller semi-independent productions now feasible with CGI special effects, such as Solaris or the recently-released Sunshine.

The article needs work.

Hamiltondaniel 07:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Fantasy Films Before the 1980s
I disagree with the respondent's rather incredible claim that there were almost no fantasy films before the 1980s that weren't horror. What about:- the various versions of The Thief of Bagdad (1924 and 1940), Disney's various ventures into feature-length animation, Ray Harryhausen's The 7th Voyage of Sinbad (1958) and The Golden Voyage of Sinbad (1974), Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (1971), Dr Dolittle (1967), Chitty Chitty Bang Bang (1968) to name but a handful of titles that immediately come to mind. Certainly the point made that there was a convergence between sf and fantasy in the 1980s is a pertinent one.

Titles
I notice a correspondent has recently specifically created an edit to list Star Wars as Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope and 2010 as 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Star Wars was only retitled Episode IV: A New Hope in re-release, but not in the original version. Similarly 2010 is only known as 2010 on the screen title, the only place the subtitle The Year We Make Contact appears in on the film's poster. Maybe we could come to some sort of consensus on what the correct title should be could be reached? My feeling is that the title that appears on screen and the one that appears in the original release should be the official title. --203.118.131.65 10:31, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

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Article fails at the first hurdle
Unfortunately this article fails at the very first hurdle of even accurately understanding what Science Fiction is. ET is not a Science Fiction film, it's pure fantasy. So is Star Wars. Star Wars is a film essentially based on magic and spiritualism, not science. There is nothing scientific about "the Force". Just because it's based in space and has laser94.175.102.211 (talk) 22:07, 25 January 2023 (UTC) guns in it, doesn't make a film science fiction.