Talk:History of the Constitution of the Roman Republic/GA1

GA Review
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 * References needed:
 * "In the immediate aftermath of the revolution, the senate and the assemblies were as powerless as they had been under the monarchy."
 * "During the fourth century BC..."
 * "It was, in all likelihood, simply a matter of time before the Plebeians came to dominate the senate."
 * "The senators, in contrast, were usually quite experienced..."
 * "Soon the masses of unemployed Plebeians began to flood into Rome, and into the ranks of the legislative assemblies."
 * "The prior era saw great military successes,..."
 * "Sulla soon made peace with Mithridates..."
 * "that the senate decided to override him..."
 * "On January 7 of 49 BC, the senate ..."
 * "After Caesar's assassination, Mark Antony..."
 * Collapse both navigation boxes

Gary King ( talk ) 05:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I have made these changes. Please update the GA nomination. RomanHistorian (talk) 06:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The images take up more than 50% of the width on 1024x768 screens. Consider shrinking them.
 * Use en dashes for numerical ranges such as "103-23" and in the section titles
 * I do not think it is a numerical range, but rather a chapter-article or something like that. Nergaal (talk) 01:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I mean two numbers and a line between them. Gary King ( talk ) 03:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * How do you do those dashes? I am not sure how. I am also not sure what needs these dashes. RomanHistorian (talk) 03:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's all at WP:DASH :) Gary King ( talk ) 03:57, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What needs these dashes? RomanHistorian (talk) 05:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * All references should be placed after punctuation marks ("manner[2]," &rarr; "manner,[2]")
 * Disambiguate these links: Tarquin, Mithridates, Illyricum, Curio, Rubicon River, Procurator

Gary King ( talk ) 21:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I have made these changes. Will anything else need to be done for GA status? RomanHistorian (talk) 00:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I second to the question. Nergaal (talk) 02:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * En dashes still aren't done, such as in section titles. I haven't checked the rest. Gary King ( talk ) 03:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, missed on the part with the titles-done. Nergaal (talk) 05:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * "Abbott, 42-43" &rarr; "Abbott, 42–43"
 * "Plebeian Council,.[50] " &rarr; "Plebeian Council.[50] "
 * "Document 103-23" &rarr; "Document 103–23"
 * "Law. 1871-1888" &rarr; "Law. 1871–1888"
 * references needed for the following, to the end of the paragraphs
 * "It was a modification to the Valerian law"
 * "and great economic failures,"
 * "Sulla and his supporters then slaughtered most of Marius' supporters"
 * "and rescind the land laws that Caesar had passed in 59 BC for Pompey's veterans."
 * "the senate passed a senatus consultum ultimum,"
 * "They held powers that were nearly identical to the powers that Caesar had held under his "

Gary King ( talk ) 14:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I have added the references, and I addressed the issues above. For the dashes, I simply replaced the three dashes in question with "& ndash;" (without the space). Is this what you were referring to? RomanHistorian (talk) 22:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah that's fine Gary King ( talk ) 22:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Could you add more links to the article? Some paragraphs are completely devoid of links completely. Gary King ( talk ) 22:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you mean wikilinks? RomanHistorian (talk) 01:10, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep. Surely there are some terms in those paragraphs that are interesting and useful enough to be linked, so readers who want to learn more about them can click on them. Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 02:50, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I have made these changes. RomanHistorian (talk) 06:33, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * added a bunch. Not sure weather it is still enough. Nergaal (talk) 06:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

bumpiest bump! Nergaal (talk) 18:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Passing Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 18:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Improvements needed here (senatus consultum ultimum & Gaius Gracchus)
The section on Gaius Gracchus needs work.

In the past, the senate eliminated political rivals either by establishing special judicial commissions or by passing a senatus consultum ultimum ("ultimate decree of the senate).[46][59] Both devices allowed the senate to bypass the ordinary due process rights that all citizens had.[60] Gaius outlawed the judicial commissions, and declared the senatus consultum ultimum to be unconstitutional.

The first senatus consultum ultimum was used on Gaius Gracchus so it's not possible that he found it unconstitutional, or that it was used in the past. From memory a trial of Gaius Rabirius (pro Rabirio perduellionis) whereby he was tried for the killing of Saturninus during a senatus consultum ultimum was the first attack on the constitutionality of the senatus consultum ultimum.