Talk:History of the firearm

Where's the History?
Right now the top half of the article is about how firearms were invented, and the bottom half is about how different types of guns differ. There's nearly no information about the history from 1850 to present. Someone with sources, please add some information about firearms have developed. 91.152.48.20 21:08, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The article also goes from the 14th century right to 19th century caplocks. What happened to arquebuses, matchlocks, wheellocks and flintlocks? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.162.77.10 (talk) 20:49, 26 July 2011 (UTC)


 * True; to cut a long story short, this is a surprisingly bad article. --Mike F2 (talk) 17:47, 17 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Lets start with the World’s oldest known revolver, It was made in 1597 by a German gunsmith named Hans Stopler. He made the gun in his shop in Nuremberg. 8 shots, Today this revolver is kept in Maihaugen Museum, which is located in Lillehammer, Norway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdlecO3gyOo 201.141.19.106 06:56, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Far East
I removed material that was duplicated in other articles (e.g. gunpowder or gunpowder warfare) or belonged better there. JFD 18:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Something is missing
I don't see a mention of the role that arabs/amazighs played in introducing firearms in Europe through Andalous.

What is about the siege in the 14th century by Edward I? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.66.108.212 (talk) 21:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Early modern age
The sudden jump from the 1500s and 1600s to the Springfield Armory is very jarring. A lot happened in between. And can we really call the 16th and 17th centuries "early modern"? Averyevilcentipede (talk) 09:36, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes "we" can Early modern period.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 23:15, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't get that whole Springfield Armory thing. The article states that "The Springfield Armory in Springfield, Massachusetts became important to the history of firearms during the 1850s, when it debuted the Springfield rifle. Springfield rifles were among the very first breech-loading rifles, starting production in 1865." There's also a source for the first sentence. However, that source doesn't really say anything about the 1850s or why was the Springfield Armory and its Springfield rifle "important to the history of firearms". As far as I'm aware, 1855 Springfield rifle was just another rifled musket shooting recently invented minié ammunition, pretty comparable to the Pattern 1853 Enfield or 1854 Lorenz rifle that both predate it. What's so special about 1855 Springfield rifle? The breech-loading Springfield that appeared in the 1860s wasn't that special either. Almost every "Western" army switched to breech-loaders during the 1865-1867 period. Norwegian and Prussian armies had already done so ca. 20 years ago, with Kammerlader rifle appearing in 1842 and Dreyse rifle in 1848. Again, there's nothing unusual or noteworthy in 1865 Springfield rifle. JJohannes (talk) 16:28, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

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Possible improvement of punctuation
As written: "As ignition devices, matchlocks, wheellocks, snaplock, flintlocks and percussion caps were used in turn." Apparently "ignition devices" is not one of the series which follows. Suggested revision: "Matchlocks, wheellocks, snaplock, flintlocks and percussion caps were used in turn as ignition devices." (TerryKave (talk) 00:29, 30 November 2023 (UTC))