Talk:History of the hamburger

Wimpy
Very interesting article but a surprising omission - Wimpy (restaurant)s in the UK, operating from the early 1950s and expanded to over a thousand restaurants in 23 countries by the early 1970s; McDonalds first restaurant in the UK opened in 1974. I've added a short couple of sentences but am surpised this wasn't in the article, which seems very McDonalds-heavy. There were flourishing 'hamburger cultures' in Europe before McD's arrived here - the idea spread long before the McD franchise itself, and I remember thinking as a youngster when it arrived in the seventies 'why do we need this, we've got Wimpys?'  86.152.241.97 (talk) 07:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Wimpy was mentioned, albeit only with its namesake (J. Wellington Wimpy of Popeye fame) under the "Culinary myth" section. The information looks good, but is there any way you'd be able to cite it? Thanks! TFCforever (talk) 13:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I've gone to Wimpy's website, found the information, and added a citation to verify your addition. What do you think? TFCforever (talk) 13:43, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks good! Thanks. 86.152.241.97 (talk) 08:13, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Hamburg Harbor Date
Can anyone explain why the painting of Hamburg harbor is captioned to be from roughly 1890, yet the date on the image itself reads 1862? 192.249.47.163 (talk) 20:25, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Because 1862 is not a year but print number, see here. --Asdf01 (talk) 11:49, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

History of Delmonico's is incorrect
Hamburg steak was known before 1873. http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1872-07-22/ed-1/seq-1.pdf will show you that in the 5th column 1/5 of the way down, it was in California before that. I've also seen note as early as 1869 but can't find the reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dauq (talk • contribs) 20:29, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I cannot find what you are referring to. Can anyone? Please quote. --Ronz (talk) 20:58, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Fundinguniverse.com author
I'm trying to make sense of this citation, and others like it in other articles. Was someone from fundinguniverse working on articles at answers.com maybe?

The answers.com link no longer verifies the info. The archive is [https://web.archive.org/web/20090516031022/http://www.answers.com/topic/burger-king? here]. This archived answers.com article refers to a previous copy: https://web.archive.org/web/20071028190343/http://www.answers.com/topic/burger-king? I don't see any justification for attributing anything to fundinguniverse.com. What do others make of it? --Ronz (talk) 20:03, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Reliable sources for steak tartar origin?
Something must be wrong with this sentence: "When Genghis Khan's grandson Kublai Khan (1215–1294) invaded Moscow, he and his warriors introduced minced horsemeat to the Muscovites. This was later called steak tartare." - None of these articles: Kublai Khan, Moscow, History of Moscow, Mongol invasion of Rus', List of Mongol and Tatar raids against Rus' mentiones that Kublai Khan ever invaded Moscow. Rus' was invaded by Batu Khan in 1237-1242. Then there were many raids against different principalities, in particular in 1293 "the Mongol warlord Dyuden came to Rus and pillaged fourteen towns, including Murom, Moscow, Kolomna, Vladimir, Suzdal, Yuriev-Polsky, Pereslavl-Zalessky, Mozhaysk, Volokolamsk, Dmitrov and Uglitch." This is the only listed raid of Moscow which happened during the reign of Kublai Khan (1260-1294), but it is unclear if it is related to Kublai Khan himself. --Off-shell (talk) 22:53, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

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First paragraph
For years the first paragraph mentioned both the US and Germany. During an edit war on 9th August 2023 the reference to Germany and controversy seems to have been removed, accidentally or maliciously.

I’ve restored it to how it was prior to said edit war (to match the body of the article), but we should discuss what it should actually look like and come to a consensus. Jaredjeya (talk) 16:14, 24 October 2023 (UTC)