Talk:Hitachi Magic Wand/Archive 1

Link
There should be a link provided to what pretends to be the main Wikipedia article on this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrator_%28sensual%29 since the above article fails to mention this article rumjal 01:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Manufacturer
Hey, I know this sounds obvious, but can anybody clarify if this is manufactured by Hitachi, Ltd. or not? --KatzMotel (talk) 16:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I've heard a story that Hitachi stopped making it years ago and sold the rights to the design to another company, including the right to label it a "Hitachi Magic Wand." No confirmation, though. --Mightyfastpig (talk) 23:26, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it might the Topco that now sell this, though a lot of outlets still refer to Hitachi Magic Wand. --PMH_WikiUser (talk) 23:04, November 24 2010 (GMT)

Ventegodt source
Source number 4 is for a paper by Danish Scientist Søren Ventegodt who lost his license to practise medicine (https://www.sst.dk/Tilsyn%20og%20patientsikkerhed/Tilsynslisten/tilsyn_liste.aspx). The paper is also not peer-reviewed and I am concerned about it being used as a source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.199.61.38 (talk) 19:47, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

REMOVED a section of blatent advertising / false information
I have removed: "==Illegal in Europe== The Hitachi Magic Wand is available only in a 110V version for North American domestic supplies and has a NEMA power plug and does not meet the European safety standards. Although it can be used with small 220-to-110 volt travel adapter containing non-insulating auto-transformer, this combination is still illegal in Europe. A 220 volt version is available in Australia marketed under the name Medisil Magic Touch."

The above is utter rubbish. It's not illegal anywhere! And how does it make it illegal to use a 110v device in a 220/240 country with a step down transformer? It doesn't!!! There's no citation because this IS JUST NOT THE CASE!. Finally, someone has added this paragraph as a means to advertise their own version of the magic torch. Clearly advertising, and clearly false information - hence removed. I hope you concurr. Volatileacid (talk) 03:40, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

It it NOT legal in Europe
I have re-posted this very important safety information about Hitachi Magic Wand. (off course not the advertising of the Australian product - it too is illegal due to lack of CE-approval).

But it is not legal to sell ANY electrical devices in Europe, that is not CE-approved. So the information is correct! And it is also quite relevant in this situation. The "adult" industry do not have the same "moral" as other industries selling electrical devices. Imagine the situation if someone bought a blender that showed up not to be safe (=CE-approved)... the retailer would be in big trouble.

Nevertheless in the "adult" industry it's not uncommon to misslead women to put 230 unsafe Voltages on their intimate parts!! '''Please let this important information stay on Wikipedia - if the women can't find the information here, then where???""

PS. Hitachi have known this for years - THEY don't sell Hitachi Magic Wand in Europe... see their official blog: http://hitachimagicwand.blogspot.dk/2009_04_01_archive.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frisenfeldt (talk • contribs) 11:39, 11 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Because a device does not meet CE approval - does not make it ILLEGAL to use. Can you kindly show me where exactly you're sourcing this information from. This applies to all electrical products. You are making claims without valid reference. Take for example "this combination is still illegal in Europe." in reference to sourcing this product outside Europe and then using it with a step down transformer. It's not illegal USE a product if it hasn't CE certification, no one is going to be prosecuted and no one can be fined or sent to jail. And just because it's not been certified does not mean it's not safe! If it's safe enough for the North American market, are you saying that the safety issues are only because it's being used in conjunction with a step down transformer? That still doesn't equate to it being illegal. I notice you also seem to have contributed to this article only with your current username to date? If you persist in attempting to add erroneous information without reference, I will have to alert a moderator to this. Volatileacid (talk)


 * Furthermore in reference to your request: 'Please let this important information stay on Wikipedia - if the women can't find the information here, then where', Wikipedia is a factual encyclopedia - not a notice board. The single reference you do provide is not a wp:reliable source.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Volatileacid (talk • contribs) 15:16, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

92.74.174.176 (talk) 09:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC) Additional comment to "illegal in Europe"

The Magic Wand has been sold via official distributors until 2006. Than a edict about electronic waste was established. Items with leaded tin-solder where no longer allowed to be distributed, because recycling of such material is very extensive. So Hitachi decided to remove the Magic Wand from the European market instead of changing manufacturing and the used material. Furthermore, the MW has no CE certification. 92.74.174.176 (talk) 09:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

compare these links: http://www.lovetoytest.net/forum/topic/5117-hitachi-zauberstab-ab-2006-verboten/ http://www.lovetoytest.net/dildo-vibrator-test/zauberstab-2.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.74.174.176 (talk) 09:10, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Unsourced sect moved to talk page
The Magic Wand is manufactured exclusively for the North American market. It is UL approved and requires a 110V AC supply. Hitachi never made a version for the European market, which requires a CE mark and a 230V AC supply. Many copies and imitations exist, both for the North American market and for the European market.
 * Availability and copies

Above was unsourced sect, provided zero (0) sources for that sect.

Please do not add back into the article unless properly sourced, ideally to secondary sources.

Thank you,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:27, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

China
Could not find secondary sourcing saying it is made in China.

If someone else finds secondary sourcing on that, please let me know.

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 22:12, 23 September 2014 (UTC)