Talk:Hobo's/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Gerald Waldo Luis (talk · contribs) 17:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

I'll be reviewing this article. Shorts should be promoted within a while.  Gerald WL  17:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:52, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Lead

 * "before closing during the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020." No need for "in 2020," as the pandemic is on 2020. On some devices the "2020" is also placed in a new, weird line.  Gerald WL  02:23, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:29, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Description

 * "located at 120 Northwest 3rd Avenue in downtown Portland's Old Town Chinatown. The establishment also served as a starting point for tours of the Shanghai tunnels." This is supported by 3 citations, one of them is a bundle of two. So there are a whopping four references. Can you relocate the citations, or remove unneeded ones?  Gerald WL  04:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:44, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Maybe it is meaningless, but it would be a friendly gesture if we link "chi-chi" to chichi.  Gerald WL  04:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not really sure when linking to wiktionary is necessary. I would just encourage readers to look up the definition of a word if needed. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:43, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Link city council?  Gerald WL  04:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I've linked to Government of Portland, Oregon, which is more specific. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:45, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "The tunnels were accessed by a trapdoor and stairs to the restaurant's basement" Supported by three citations. Seemed too much: mind addressing?  Gerald WL  04:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I want to push back here. In this case, I feel all three sources are used to come up with the article's current wording, which is why I included quotes from all three sources to demonstrate how they've been used to justify use of "trapdoor", "stairs", and "basement". --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:46, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "Reed said the "spacious" restaurant had an "extensive" dinner menu"-- suggest remodel to "The restaurant, which Reed called it "spacious," had an "extensive" dinner menu"  Gerald WL  04:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think "which Reed called it "spacious"..." is grammatically correct. I prefer the current wording. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I checked the grammar-- apparently, it is grammatically correct without the "it."  Gerald WL  05:53, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:56, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

History

 * "used Hobo's as an entrance to the tunnels, as of 2002–2010." Supported by three references. Again, seemed too much, given the shortness of this claim.  Gerald WL  04:35, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I wanted to give sources for the time span. Hobo's has a lengthy history so I think the dates are helpful for noting when Jones used the space for tours. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:49, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Seems like a good reasoning.  Gerald WL  05:51, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Seems like "scallops" has not been linked. Recommend linking.  Gerald WL  04:40, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:49, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "and collect some compelling visual evidence" is a very debatable claim. Suggest changing "according to" to "as claimed by."
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:51, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Reception

 * "Amanda Waldroupe of Willamette Week wrote" Perhaps have "that" after it?  Gerald WL  04:40, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "In Moon Portland"-- suggest adding "the book" ("In the book Moon Portland...")  Gerald WL  04:40, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , from there it has passed the GA criteria in my lens. Since the image has not been reduced, I will put this until it is reduced: in the meantime, feel free to add new things and improve the article. If I see one I'll also copyedit it.  Gerald  WL  06:29, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:24, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , The image has been reduced. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:24, 16 December 2020 (UTC)