Talk:Hogenakkal Falls

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Hogenakal Falls: This falls is from Karnataka State of India and it is wrongly biased as belongs to Tamilnadu of India

An very good Example to say my word is: the same Wiki under ==Etymology== it is written where the name come from. the name came from Karnataka and yes it still belongs to Karnataka

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Missing location information

"152 km (94 mi) from Kolar Gold Fields, 46 km (29 mi), 181 km (112.46 mi) from Mysore, and 46 km (29 mi) from Dharmapuri"

Please add name of location which is 46 km from the falls, currently missing in the introduction.

Etymology
The word Hogenakal is formed of two Kannada words hoge and kal. When the water falls on the rocks it appears as if hoge (smoke) is emanating from the top of the kal (rock) because of the force of the water, hence Hogenakkal (smoking rocks) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balajimcat25 (talk • contribs) 07:08, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 23 April 2012
LOCATED ON THE BORDER OF KARNATAKA & TAMIL NADU. ITS WRONGLY PRINTED AS LOCATION - TAMIL NADU please change LOCATION : TAMIL NADU to LOCATION : KARNATAKA, TAMIL NADU

Jaideeps20 (talk) 02:49, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. B  music  ian  02:59, 23 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Read the sources given. It is in Tamil Nadu.--Sodabottle (talk) 09:44, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2014
The Hogenakkal is locates in Karnataka state. Please make this correction.

182.73.251.130 (talk) 10:45, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Change Location to karnataka
Fin below the proof that Hogenakkal Falls located in karnataka. https://www.google.co.in/maps/place/Hogenakkal+Falls — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karthick1980 (talk • contribs) 10:37, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Please read my earlier response to you and the numerous other discussions above. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  10:39, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Google Maps cannot be used as a source. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:25, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

If Google map cannot be used as a source, then on what source basis Hogennakkal falls is located in Tamilnadu? Could you please share source with public so that we can take it forward.Karthick1980 (talk) 18:39, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * This has been asked and answered, . The best of the given sources is the Britannica. Not all of the others are accessible, but the Britannica is reliable. Drmies (talk) 16:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

So google map proof is the only reliable and available concrete proof which clearly mentions that Hogennakkal falls is located in Chamrajnagar District, Karnataka. Please change it accordingly as you don't have any right to defy the proof and update articles as per your knowledge.Karthick1980 (talk) 18:27, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Drmies, I've found the source from karnataka Gov't http://chamrajnagar.nic.in/distprofile/dtmap.html, Please have a look at the map provided by electoral of India,where it clearly mentioned Hogenakkal falls is part of Chamrajnagar district,karnataka.Karthick1980 (talk) 19:41, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * this is getting incredibly silly, you are changing to something that conflicts all sources including EB, the law ministry etc to your reading of an unclear map (which actually has the disrrict boundary outside of the river. Please stop this.--&mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  20:31, 18 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Since I'm now probably on the border of being involved with this article (owing to the recent activity), I might as well cross it and hopefully end this mess once and for all.
 * A peer reviewed paper titled An appraisal of natural tourist attractions in Tamil Nadu by a Senior Geographer working for the GoI: "Tamil Nadu has silvery cascades in Courtallam waterfalls, Hogenakkal waterfalls, Kumbakkarai waterfalls, Akasagangai waterfalls, Thirumoorthy waterfalls, Agasthiyar waterfalls and Thiruparappu waterfalls etc"


 * White paper from the Geological Survey of India titled Geology and Mineral Resources, Southern States: "Alkaline magmatism is recorded in the form of several syenite-carbonatite bodies like Pikkili and Hogenakkal areas of northwest Tamil Nadu"


 * White paper from National Council of Applied Economic Research prepared for the Ministry of Tourism, titled Regional Tourism Satellite Account -- Tamil Nadu, 2009-10:"The tourism industry  of  TN  is  not  limited  to  these  religious  sites  only. Other major attractions for the visitors are its hill stations such as Kodaikanal, Udagamandalam  (Ooty),  Kolli  Hills  and  Coonoor;  waterfalls  such  as  Catherine falls,  Courtallam  and  Hogenakkal  falls;  beaches  such  as  Marina  beach,  Elliot beach,  Kanniyakumari beach  and  Poompuhar  beach and  Mudumalai  National Park and Guindy National Park etc"


 * The District Collector of Dharmapuri announces that he's closing the falls and the bridge to visitors; article from The Hindu. Another similar article, different year. Clearly not something that can be done unless the area is under your control!.


 * Over and out. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  04:28, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

I think that it should be listed as 'on the border'. A lot of evidence is shown above that is belongs to Tamil Nadu and also that it belongs to Karnataka. The border passes through the middle of the river as suggested in most maps. It is also controlled by both states. Therefore it should be listed as either 'on the border between Tamil Nadu and Karnataka' or given as 'Tamil Nadu and Karnataka'.The Mathlete (talk) 11:38, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2015
The Hogenekkal falls not located in Tamil Nadu, its also a part of Karnataka. As name mentioned its purely a part of Karnataka state. The river Kaveri bifurcates Karnataka and TN from this falls.

Nandakumar2007 (talk) 06:57, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * All reliable sources (some listed in article and here) are to the contrary.&mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  08:54, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I chose not to open a new discussion topic but rather put my remarks on the last active thread. River Kaveri demarcates boundary between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu for a long stretch. Both states have historically had disputes around their claims on the water as well. Hogenakkal is one spot right on the borderline of two states and hence all confusion. I had the chance to visit the place actually two months back and I understood the topology only after the locals explained that main entry point of the falls + park is in Tamil Nadu (for visitors/tourists) and the other side of the fall opens up in Karnataka (you have to take a boat and circle around to see this part as it is strong upstream and a rocky bed). I have pictures of the waterfall on both sides (yes - there are multiple waterfalls cutting out of the rocks, not just one), which I intend to upload soon and link to the article. Location should rightly be both the states, but fear not - I don't intend to take it on me to do this :) and invite wrath !! Devopam (talk) 11:48, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

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