Talk:Holbeck Hall Hotel

Location
The article has no geographic coordinates for the location. I don't know where the hotel was, but there was a building at approximately 54.26707°N, -0.39134°W that no longer exists, and one of the roads nearby is called Holbeck Hill. --Snigbrook ( talk ) 15:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I think it is approximately where the view point is now at the end of Sea Croft Road probably at 54.2669°N, -0.389°W. Keith D (talk) 16:35, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

the holbeck hall has never been looked at again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.124.121 (talk) 20:25, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've found a link on wikimapia.org:, I don't know the size of the hotel but the area marked looks too large - the hotel would have been somewhere in that area. (The coordinates I mentioned previously were for a building that existed on the maps at www.old-maps.co.uk, maybe it became part of the hotel). --Snigbrook ( talk ) 17:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Merger?
This article is a really short one; I wonder if it should be merged into another article. I don't know which article it should be merged into; but it's just a thought. Please respond on my talk page. ThomasRules (talk) 11:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

The true story of the demise of Holbeck Hall

Are we sure about this bit? From what I recall it was a mini heatwave throughout this period and there were tourists watching for long periods.

I was the general manager of Holbeck Hall Hotel when the land slide happened. The point at which I start the timeline is the afternoon of Thursday 3rd June 1993. The weather was glorious, a mini heat wave all week; it had rained heavily in the preceding period though. I had been to the bank and returned to Holbeck Hall at about 3pm. The duty receptionist told me there was a man from The Dept of Environment on the lawn leading down to the cliff edge who wanted to speak with me. The man from the ministry told me that he was there to check the cliff out prior to a team coming to inspect next week. He told me about reported erosion, asking if I had noticed shale and soil spills on the cliff paths; I had not because I had not walked them since the previous year. Anyhow, he told me not to be concerned when I see men walking over the lawn and cliff edge as they will just be making an inspection and there is no danger or anything to be concerned about. One thing the ministry man pointed out was the about 1 foot crack in the middle of the rose garden situated on a horseshoe shaped extremity at the far end of the lawn.

I went home for an hours rest.

That evening the hotel was fully booked as it had been all week, many guests were regulars who stayed the same week each year. All the 40 or so residents would be taking dinner that evening, plus a big table for Scarborough Building Society and a couple of other chance bookings. I had asked a friend to help with the waiting service, he agreed provided I drove him to Bubbs Bar before last orders.

Dinner service came and went. Just before I was about to drive my friend to the pub a long standing since he was a boy (long before my time) guest who was staying with his wife, son and parents approached me to ask if I had walked down to the rose garden recently and was I aware that a part of the rose garden had slipped into the sea. I drove my friend to the pub, dealt with some admin and then went for a walk across the lawn to the hidden (it had a hedge surround) rose garden. And many feet below it was sitting in the sea with gentle waves lapping around it. I called the council duty surveyor emergency line, left a message and also called my chairman Mrs Turner to report. Helped the new receptionist balance her tab (which we never did and left it out by 1p) and went home exhausted.

Friday 4th June 1993. Woken by Assistant Manager Tom Kay on phone, telling me the entire lawn was in the sea. I told him he was daft and put the phone down. Tom called me back to say it really was true. I pulled on a T-shirt and jeans and drove up to Holbeck Hall. Important note: from the entrance of the hotel drive off Sea View Road to the door of Holbeck Hall the land has an upwards incline to and only when you got out of your car and stood up would you be able to see over the lawn and cliff. I got out of the car and saw the entire lawn several hundred feet or whatever the distance was to the shore or sea below sitting down there, gentle waves lapping below around and over it. One memory is of the perimeter bushes still being in exactly the same place they always were except far below.

We went into the hotel and joined by the night porter inspected the ceiling of the rose lounge which had overlooked the lawn and distant sea. Beams were creaking and the decorative plaster ceiling was beginning to crumble. WE put into practice an emergency fire drill and gathered all guests and did a roll call in the car park to be sure all were accounted for and safe. I then dialled 999. First to respond and be on the scene was the coast guard. Other emergency services followed some time after we had rescued the hotel register and guests files and some of the beautiful rose glass and pictures. The police then took control.

The rest of what happened are all private memories of the people there on the day. It was another glorious hot sunny day.

I would like to pay credit to my boss Joan Turner who was simply amazing, Sky News and The Observer who covered the whole saga truthfully, with empathy for the people and without sensation.

NickHolbeckHall (talk) 18:11, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Holbeck Hall Hotel. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
 * Added archive https://archive.is/20120715190430/http://web.uct.ac.za/staff/jgibson/iczm/cases/holbeck3.htm to http://web.uct.ac.za/staff/jgibson/iczm/cases/holbeck3.htm
 * Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080509062816/http://www.englishrosehotels.co.uk/ to http://www.englishrosehotels.co.uk/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot  (Report bug) 15:35, 8 December 2017 (UTC)