Talk:Holistic management (agriculture)

Wasn't this article mean to be deleted?
I am confused because in 2013 it was decided to delete this article but it wasn't deleted but just its name changed? Pinging User:LFaraone. The previous deletion discussion was here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Holistic_management. EMsmile (talk) 11:16, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Has there been any update from LFaraone or other Wikipedia administrators in any other talk pages about this? TB5ivVaO1y55FkAogw1X (talk) 17:57, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Going back to April 2023, it looks like the article was draftified, instead of outright deleted as mentioned at the AfD. Only a few days later it was moved back to article space.. KoA (talk) 18:26, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah I see, thank! TB5ivVaO1y55FkAogw1X (talk) 18:51, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

The More I Read, The More Major Issues I Keep Finding
Scrolling around this article keeps leading to major issues. Sources are low quality, not reputable, have conflicts of interests, repeated a replicated source on two websites as if it were two separate sources, often don't even say what they are being claimed to cite, (more minor) some just use external links instead of an actual ref tag which leads to the numbering getting off, and I presume there are likely more issues I haven't found yet

The article is not WP:NPOV, focusing almost entirely just on Allan Savory's statements repeated as if determined to be true when they are heavily disputed. There is limited information from others outside of the Criticism section. It makes heavy use of weasel words to attempt to claim support from others. For instance that the USDA has "acknowledged" holistic grazing. What does "acknowledge" even mean? That they made a report saying it existed?

I started adding some inline templates, but honestly if I kept going this article would have been just filled with those templates and nothing else. I will make some attempt to clean up this article, but this article needs substantial overhaul TB5ivVaO1y55FkAogw1X (talk) 17:53, 8 January 2024 (UTC)