Talk:Holland High School (Michigan)

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This old article has collected no references since it was created in 2012. I looked and found nothing special about the school. I understand that notability is not disproven by the absence of citations, but if six years have gone by without any added, I suggest that none are likely to pop up. The question is whether high schools are assumed to have notability in the absence of sources. Simultaneously, we are arguing about another high school, Denver Online High School, in a discussion here, which article does have reliable independent sources. Now that the PROD has been reverted without comment, the next logical step would be AfD, which, I think most will agree, will be a waste of editors' time. Rhadow (talk) 13:31, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Obviously data from NCES and MHSAA.com are easy adds. MLIVE.com is the website for the former Gannet newspapers in Michigan of which there are three close by. WZZM, WOOD are but two of the television stations that serve the area. The city has its own daily paper, the Holland Sentinal, but I don't believe it is online. Considering your remarks about an online school being at AfD, this all appears quite POINTY. John from Idegon (talk) 15:36, 9 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello John from Idegon -- I like NCES, too. It is practically a primary source though.  If we were to say, "The article has NCES, a reliable independent source; the school meets WP:GNG," then every school with an NCES entry is automatically notable.  I'm not sure that is the intent of all the discussions at RfC, SCHOOLSOURCE, and the like. As to MHSAA.com, my personal opinion is that sports scores are routine announcements, like earnings reports for companies. Not fodder for an encyclopedia.  I did not mean to be POINTY, but you said these discussions need to be conducted in a broader forum.  That is what an AfD is. Rhadow (talk) 15:46, 9 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Sports scores are routine and actually out of guidelines. The sports offered and the championships won are not.  The point I'm making is that there are numerous sources available for the school, between the local TV stations and the newspapers, and not all of it is going to show up in a regionalized Google search.  It's ludicrous to think that there are not sources available to expand this article, and that should have been realized prior to the PROD. And, I'm sorry, but AfD is not the forum to discuss it.  Go ahead and nominate all the schools I deprodded; see how far it gets you. John from Idegon (talk) 17:06, 9 February 2018 (UTC)