Talk:Holland Smith

Nonexistent Wiki Links
I removed all the wiki links that were to nonexistent Wikipedia pages.--Haydenowensrulz (talk) 19:30, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Date of promotion to general
I rephrased "...the general was born 20 April 1882..." I've heard the expression "x's are born, not made", but this is ridiculous. Does anybody know when he made general? I have removed references to "General" Smith from the Early life section, but don't know when it becomes correct later on. Clarityfiend 19:19, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Howlin' Mad
Should it be mentioned that it is believed by many fans of the A-Team (and never been proven or refuted one way or the other) that H.M. "Howlin Mad" Murdock was named after this general?

In the series, we never find out what the initials stand for, but this makes sense.

Is this too vague and unsubstantiated to put in, or is it an interesting bit of trivia for people to think about? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 143.167.233.7 (talk) 03:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

There already is a Wikipedia page of H M Murdoch and it mentions the H M Smith connection.MWS (talk) 22:44, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Why so little?
Smith was a peer of Guderian and Patton (in genius if not geography). Why is his article so much shorter? There must be a biography someone could crib from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dugong.is.good.tucker (talk • contribs) 19:58, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Please, Jarheads in general, Academy types in particular - the WWII section needs to be revised. Dugong.is.good.tucker (talk) 17:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * A better question is, why is there no coverage of the fact that Smith was a vindictive egotist who held the entire Army in disdain and considered himself to be synonymous with the Marine Corps as a whole? 24.214.230.66 (talk) 20:13, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Opinion moved in from main article
In history books of the past Gen. H. Smith flanked the US Army on Saipan. The Army had the toughest part of the jungle to move and the heaviest fighting. Gen. H. Smith chewed out Army Gen. Smith for not keeping up. H. Smith was relieved of command and never saw combat again. Jerkos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.30.212.189 (talk) 02:42, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

The following paragraph, written into the main article, obviously belongs here on the talk page instead. -- Bill-on-the-Hill (talk) 15:03, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Based on what I have read in Professor Harry Gailey's "Howling Mad Versus the Army", Army Generals were not highly impressed with General H.M. Smith's leadership ability even before he relieved Ralph Smith on Saipan. Saipan notwithstanding, the Okinawa Invasion Forces was the 10th US Army. It's order of battle was 4 Army Infantry Divisions(7th, 27th, 77th, and 96th) and two Marine DIvisions(1st and 6th). I think a more believable explanation why General H.M. Smith was not chosen for command of 10th Army was that the Army preferred an Army General to command a predominantly Army force, just as the Marines would have preferred a Marine General to command a predominantly Marine force, e.g. General H.M. Smith commanded V Amphibious Corps on Saipan, which consisted of 2nd and 4th Marine DIvisions and the 27th Infantry DIvision.  -- User:Kighva

Postwar career
He was listed on the masthead of the San Diego Union as Publisher; I am not sure when.MWS (talk) 22:52, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia page about Camp H.M. Smith, Hawai'i, which is named for the General whose name appears here, gives the General's name as: Holland McIntyeire Smith. This page gives the General's name as: Holland McTyeire Smith. Either of these is, potentially erroneous, as the "common" spelling of the General's middle name is McIntyre. This general served in BOTH WWI AND WWII, with distinction, and deserves better than having his name misrepresented, or misspelled in any way. 96.18.228.149 (talk) 15:36, 29 December 2012 (UTC)