Talk:Holy, Holy, Holy! Lord God Almighty

Alternative lyrics
Wow, surprised not to see a talk page here. Anyway, I seem to remember singing different lyrics to the second verse, specifically "crystal" instead of "glassy" and "Who" instead of "Which". Also, I know that some churches (maybe just Churches of Christ?) sing "God over all and blest eternally" as the fourth line of the first and fourth stanzas. Any other ideas/ sources on this? ''-- 07:09, 15 February 2008

I go to a nondenominational Christian Church, and our hymnal has this alternate last line. For the record, most of us grew up with the "trinity" version and don't like the change. User:UrsaLinguaBWD''

The Mormon version finishes the first and fourth stanzas with a nontrinitarian "God in His glory, blessed Deity!". knoodelhed (talk) 09:26, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Heber wrote it as a Trinity Day poem, so he almost certainly wrote “God in three Persons, Blessed Trinity.” Hellenophile07 (talk) 00:16, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Alternative melody
John Dykes' melody is by far the best known, but not necessarily the best - how about pointers to other melodies please? User:TonyGosling'' —Preceding undated comment added 10:25, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Dykes’ melody, called “Nicæa”, was written to accompany this song only. According to the tune page for “Holy, Holy, Holy”, on www.hymnary.org, a distinct melody called “Trinity” arose in 1920 by Percy MacKaye. This melody was clearly inspired by “Nicæa”, and the text paired very nearly plagiarizes “Holy, Holy, Holy (Lord, God Almighty)”. Hellenophile07 (talk) 00:26, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Source for opening line
Does the opening line quote the Sanctus of the Latin Mass as the article currently states? The Sanctus begins Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus, Dominus Deus Sabaoth ("Holy, holy, holy, Lord God of hosts"). While in modern English the term "Lord of Hosts" is sometimes rendered "Lord Almighty," I would be very doubful that was the practice in 1861 when Heber wrote the hymn. Obviously, the words in the hymn are not in Latin and it is not strictly a direct quote anyway. Additionally, Heber was surely aware that the Sanctus quotes from the considerably older Isaiah 6:3 and also appears in Revelation 4:8. Greenshed (talk) 20:06, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

No, because rather than being a translation of the “Sanctus”, it is more likely to be reminiscent of the Eternal Song you mentioned, from Revelation 4:8: «ἅγιος, ἅγιος, ἅγιος Κύριος ὁ Θεὸς ὁ Παντοκράτωρ», which literally means “Holy, Holy, Holy, the Lord the God the Almighty”. Hellenophile07 (talk) 00:39, 20 January 2020 (UTC)