Talk:Holy Fire (2018)

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Requested move 11 November 2018

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move. (page mover nac) Flooded  with them hundreds  10:41, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Holy Fire (2018) → Holy Fire (wildfire) – Year disambiguation is confusing when disambiguating from something other than an event. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 01:59, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. --Surachit (talk) 04:18, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Strongly Oppose – The proposed title is a violation of WP:MOS and WP:COMMONNAME, as well as standard Wikipedia title formatting practices, not to mention that it is awkward, redundant, and extremely unlikely to be searched by readers over the current title. The standard formatting calls for the year to be used when the subject is not the main topic (e.g. Hurricane Linda (1997), Valley Fire (2018), etc.).  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 06:33, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Support this was an event, so the nom doesn't make sense. And year is how we dab catastrophe and disaster events, even named events within title 2018 California wildfire "Holy Fire". However I can see where the nom is coming from (wildfire) explains what the event was. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:48, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * What I meant was that Holy Fire wasn't an event, not that this article wasn't. &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 14:15, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The Holy Fire was an event and it is a subject that qualifies for a date modifier. Are we going to rename Cedar Fire (2003) and Cedar Fire (2016) to Cedar Fire 1 and Cedar Fire 2? And how about moving Border Fire to Border Fire (wildfire)?  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 16:45, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I think the Cedar Fire solution could be Cedar Fire (2003 wildfire) and Cedar Fire (2016 wildfire), if we wanted to rigidly consistent. However, Cedar Fire (2003) and Cedar Fire (2016) seem fine to me. Holy Fire (2018) does present a bit of a dilemma, since many people (especially outside of California and the United States) might believe that "Holy Fire (2018)" should refer to the Orthodox Christian ceremony in Jerusalem in 2018. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- RobLa (talk) 17:38, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Holy Fire (2018 wildfire) would be over-precise (no other wildfires to distinguish it from). &#123;&#123;3x&#124;p&#125;&#125;ery (talk) 18:38, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Pinging other editors from a related discussion.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 16:45, 11 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose. It's redundant to say "fire" twice. The current title is also our standard format which can't be confused with anything else. Keep current title. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 23:15, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oppose for substantially the same reasons set out at Talk:Camp Fire (2018); both for consistency and agreement with that discussion's outcome and its applicability here. TJRC (talk) 00:57, 13 November 2018 (UTC)


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