Talk:Home-Start Worldwide

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Hi! I've recently joined wikipedia to edit article on charities and ran across this article. After reading through a bit of it, it was obvious that the text was written as a newsletter or company website. I checked and it looks like a lot of the text comes from this newsletter published in 2002 meaning that it didn't come from Wikipedia. Is this a problem and what do you do when you find a copyright problem? ServeForLife (talk) 18:08, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing it out and tagging the article; especially giving the URL you found the text at. For an explanation of how to handle copyright problems, see Cv101. This PDF didn't appear to have a copyright, so you must assume it is copyrighted and not compatible with Wikipedia's CC-BY-SA license, see WP:COPYPASTE for more on that. Copyrights can get tricky and confusing, if you have any questions, let myself or another editor know.--NortyNort (Holla) 03:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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Updated to Home-Start Worldwide
I am unpaid Trustee of the affiliated charity Home-StartUK.

I came across this very outdated wikipedia page, which need to be improved by someone with a good knowledge of the current state of the Home-Start movement worldwide and / or the small umbrella body Home-Start Worldwide. However the history of the movement initiated by Margaret Harrision stands. Philip Sugarman (talk) 16:33, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

A drafted a page on Home-Start UK which was declined by an editor as reading like an advert. He/She also removed all the updating I did for this page. I have listened to the various points, and updated this page again. What is odd is the title "Home -Start International, which was an umbrella body which became defunct many years ago. "Home-Start Worldwide" would be better, as at least this exists, but it is a very small and fairly inactive outfit compared to the large national associations. I think the best title for the page to actually make it useful and self-explanatory is simply "Home-Start". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philip Sugarman (talk • contribs) 17:46, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Purpose of Home-Start
Reading the article, I am not sure of the purpose of Home-Start. Reading the sources, however, suggest it is an effort to combat domestic violence, but I am still not certain who the perpetrators of said violence are; all of this could use some clarity if an interested editor is willing to provide it in a WP:NPOV manner. BilledMammal (talk) 16:47, 4 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Although some local Home-Start charities in the UK do provide services around domestic violence, this is not the primary purpose of Home-Start. Rather it is the improve the life chances of children by supporting parents in the early years. It is based on a home visiting model usually run by volunteers. Philip Sugarman (talk) 16:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Request edit on 13 October 2021

 * What I think should be changed: There could be a second paragraph under operating model to explain better what home-start does. It might say "According to Lord Joseph, commenting on parenting and children's charities in the UK, Home-Start volunteers "are themselves parents, carefully selected and given a short training. .. Each volunteer aims to become the resourceful friend of any family who so wishes, with at least one small child, often self-referred." :
 * The description by John Bowbly is important because he is such an authoritative name in child development, but Lord Joseph's account is helpful about the practicalities:
 * References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

Philip Sugarman (talk) 13:42, 13 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for making the suggestion above. I do not know if this information should or should not be in the article, but others looking at this talk page might consider adding this information. If you have specific text that you would like to add to the article, please open a new request below. Z1720 (talk) 18:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)