Talk:Home Office hostile environment policy

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I intend to delete these two sentences from the introduction: "The Home Office policy originated from a June 2009 UK Border Agency ruling. The ruling later went into effect in October 2010, after the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition came to power, with David Cameron as Prime Minister and Theresa May as Home Secretary." They are not accurate: the 2009 ruling concerns the destruction of Windrush landing cards, which was not part of the hostile environment. The hostile environment was conceived and announced in 2012. The current references don't support the incorrect claims. 5.148.106.8 (talk) 10:03, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

This article seems very POV to me - has there ever been an official policy with this title? Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 19:56, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * All the references I've checked so far (and the article has many) seem to check out. It sounds surreal, like you should expect something called this to be POV, but it appears to have been deliberate wording.  This appears to have become more notable since a recent government admission that mistreatments and deportations of legal immigrants from the Windrush generation have indeed been occurring. - Gilgamesh (talk) 23:41, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This article is very biased, most of the references are from The Guardian and Independent newspapers which although reliable sources have a heavy pro open-boarders stance and this article reads like one from those sources  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.196.127 (talk) 15:38, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Most of the refs are from Gdn or Indy, because they have given more detailed attention over a longer period, but all UK sources report essentially the same story. I have never heard of either favouring "Open borders", but "who should be allowed in" is irrelevant to whether persons already inside the country are being treated legally when being removed and whether Govt is being honest in what its agencies are doing. Pincrete (talk) 14:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Why is this a separate article? Including this as a section of Home Office under Theresa May seems a better place since this policy is very much a personal initiative of May.Wickifrank (talk) 13:56, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Related TOEIC scandal
[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/23/toeic-english-test-sajid-javid-urged-to-act-in-immigration-scandal-bigger-than-windrush? A related 'scandal], concerning forced/pressured removal of students is currently receiving widespread attention. Pincrete (talk) 14:07, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Home Secretary Priti Patel?
Has Priti Patel changed the practice? --Ghettobuoy (talk) 02:38, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Ghettobuoy, the term 'hostile environment policy' has fallen out of favour, (even Javid avoided it), since May 'fell', but the laws and practices have not changed much Patel has, if anything adopted a more 'hostile' attitude compared with Javid. Pincrete (talk) 16:18, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Migrants denied NHS care for average of 37 weeks, research finds
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/oct/14/migrants-denied-nhs-care-for-average-of-37-weeks-research-finds

John Cummings (talk) 08:10, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Thousands of victims of child trafficking denied right to stay in the UK
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/17/thousands-of-victims-of-child-trafficking-denied-right-to-stay-in-the-uk

John Cummings (talk) 16:35, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Guardian: Handcuffed, detained, denied medicine: EU citizens’ UK border ordeals
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/17/handcuffed-detained-denied-medicine-eu-citizens-uk-border-ordeals John Cummings (talk) 21:15, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Guardian: UK’s hostile environment policies ‘disproportionately impact’ people of colour
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/09/uks-hostile-environment-policies-disproportionately-impact-people-of-colour

John Cummings (talk) 22:38, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Labour's anti-immigrant tilt
explain how the origins of the hostile environment grew from a labour home office, the conclusions of the windrush report would greatly help in binding various topic's together 91.125.168.248 (talk) 11:58, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Why? Regardless of how ALL govt's have tried to control immigration since at least the 60's, this policy is/was specifically linked to that Conservative/coalition govt and T. May. No other govt proposed or implemented such extreme measures. The article isn't about immigration in general into the UK. Pincrete (talk) 07:17, 15 June 2023 (UTC)