Talk:Homebrew Channel

The article copy is mostly okay, as the source is GFDL. However, the article clearly needs to be adapted into a proper encyclopedia article, or removed if it does not pass WP:N. As one of the authors of the Channel, I'm probably not in a position to make this decision per WP:NPOV, so I'll let the community decide. A merge with Wii homebrew (and an update to the latter, since it's quite out of date) might be a good idea. Marcan (talk) 02:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * In order to satisfy the terms of GFDL, authorship history has to be credited. I've incorporated a statement in this article crediting the source and allowing readers to see the authorship history in accordance with that. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I added the HowTo alert on the page. It seems to me that the first two sections are basically instructions on how to get the Homebrew Channel working. Should those two sections be removed entirely? We've got the reference to the folks responsible for creating the Channel. Eric K (talk) 22:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Gecko OS
I noticed that some NTSC games when loaded through the Gecko OS, that if you have Japanese selected as the default language, a Japanese version of the game will play. When I loaded Trauma Center: New Blood, it played Caduceus New Blood with Japanese voice acting and all. Is there a list somewhere online of the games that have the Japanese version included on the disk? This would be so cool to play some games in Japanese to avoid horrid voice acting! MidnightScott (talk) 05:36, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Horrid voice acting? What horrid voice acting... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.88.45.17 (talk) 03:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Indian Pwns
the new exploit is out, Indiana Pwns, read about on wiibrew, and should it be added now? Chickenator
 * ✅ already added it and the BannerBomb exploit has been changed. -- Mix well ! Talk 01:00, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Installing the Channel
Has anyone ever found out how to prevent Wii updates from removing the channel? Keyboard mouse (talk) 05:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Simply re-exploit to reinstall or go on wiibrew.org --Zalgo (talk) 05:44, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

The legal issues section
The legal issues section in the article seems blatantly false, at least in a United States context, because installing the Homebrew Channel explicitly requires defeating the Wii firmware's security (via use of buffer overflow exploits or the like), which is clearly illegal under the DMCA. Mind you, I'm no fan of the DMCA at all, but this seems pretty cut-and-dried to me... UOSSReiska (talk) 23:37, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

I believe you are referring to section 1201(a) of the DMCA which forbids the circumvention of a security measure that "effectively controls access to a copyrighted work". In this case, the security does not "control access to a copyrighted work", rather it prevents the execution of 3rd party code. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00001201000-.html There is very little case law in this area, but I believe my view is supported by recent statements by the Copyright Office that certain actions are exempt from section 1201(a) of the DMCA. http://www.copyright.gov/1201/ Is there any difference between defeating security on an iPhone to run custom applications and doing the same thing on the Wii? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.90.245.58 (talk) 17:53, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Team Twiizers are now using heavy handed practices in order to "prevent piracy" on the Wii By removing HB from wiibrew's repository that require cIOS regardless if the tool can be used for it or not. But unfortunately they fail to realize (or are being completely hypocritical)that a majority of their work DEPENDS on piracy in order to function. Take the app "WiiMC" The Wii hardware can't read a video DVD but it can read a data one. Thus facilitating the need to circumvent copy protection on a DVD in order to watch most any videos on the Wii. They love to kick/ban people from their IRC when asking about emulators.. Even though they ported the best ones over to the Wii to play "Roms".(they can scream all day long it's for PD IIRC Bushing and drmr were quite involved in rom dumping for Cowering) They take a holier than thou approach to piracy to protect themselves when in fact they used piracy to originally demonstrate that they cracked the system to gain the console's encryption keys. I can't stand Hypocrites. I'll continue to use HBC because there's a lot of cool HB out there. But I'll no longer stand behind them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.109.136.173 (talk) 19:18, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Installer-section neutrality
"Because the use of "homebrewed" applications subverts Nintendo's attempts to monetize software distribution, and more importantly inadvertently paves the way for piracy, the company actively attempts to prevent the use of Homebrew Channel with each of its software updates for the Wii." isn't exactly neutral.. 213.65.135.151 (talk) 18:41, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I've never heard about monetizing software distribution. 70.62.142.66 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:51, 30 December 2010 (UTC).

Update on Installation section
Trying to be up-to-date here, Using system 4.3, only Indiana Pwns and Smash stack (NTSC) work if I'm correct. This page only mentions 4.3 once, so I've decided to update. If anyone has problems, just say so. Because I'm a wiki noob. Jasonxu98 (talk) 01:21, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * There are also Yu-Gi-Owned which works on PAL systems and an unofficial mod of it for NTSC-U/J systems Yu-Gi-Vah both of which require the game Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's Wheelie Breakers, both of which are based off the Twillight Hack, not sure if here is a place to list those though Neoman4426 (talk) 17:22, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't say that you need "Indiana Pwns" or "Smash Stack" but say that a hack specifically designated to the LEGO Indiana Jones and Super Smash Bros. Brawl can be used to install the channel. With citations to WiiBrew. --70.62.142.66 (talk) 23:49, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Seriously - why?
Ive read this article and its a complete how to right now. The artcile drastically needs to say what the home brew channel is all about. Currently all it deals with is how to get it installed, and the legaiity of it. What is the home brew channel actually for is what this article needs to steer towards. Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:29, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

It literally says what the Homebrew Channel is in one sentence...the first sentence.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:0:A803:DB00:2DF9:D917:E389:C675 (talk) 14:03, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Start this page from scratch.
This article just plainly sucks - all it seems to be is a how-to on installing the channel and Nintendo's view of the HBC, can't we find more background info such as its development/etc? The only sources we will be able to get are from the original developers and official news articles saying about what it does, there isn't much more we can do unless we are to look at other wikis and such for this sort of information.

WiiBrew.org has some information on the development and about the development team that made this, because HBC is a community effort it's too difficult to do this stuff properly without linking to normally-disliked sources here. I might work on an article on my own wiki and see how that goes. --DixieKongJD (talk) 11:40, 19 February 2016 (UTC)