Talk:Homebrewing/Content Corrections

= Content Corrections =

Beginning of Page
Uh. It appears either an eager homebrewer lacking experience on Wikipedia, or a vandal, has added a line to the beginning of the article. Suggest removing it. 69.138.50.105 (talk) 22:55, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk Page Cleanup
There has been little discussion on these pages for a while, but in an effort to facilitate the rewrite / cleanup / merge (if applicable) of Homebrewing and Homebrewing Beer I am going to reorganize the talk pages to hopefully make the past discussions easier to reference. --Chasingmytail (talk) 14:15, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * This page has some parts of it really screwed up especially in the "Homebrew beverages" section. All the links (includeing the ones with empty paragraphs) link back to the main page. --The accountless avenger  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.229.165 (talk) 22:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Topics:
 * Content Corrections
 * Rewrite or Merger
 * Legal
 * Links
 * NPOV
 * Tags

Error in Material section
Radio Stations?? I noticed that this article mentions homebrew radio stations which is obviously not the homebrew this article is talking about. After searching about homebrew radio stations I can see that this involves making antennas, crystals, and other things pertaining to transmitting radio signals and not fermenting beer and home. This should be re-written. Just don't have the time right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miarmyguy (talk • contribs) 00:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * They may have been talking about podcast sites like The Brewing Network. I put a 'fact' tag in that portion. --Chasingmytail (talk) 21:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Moved 5 paragraph -unsigned- comment about personal experience with home winemaking to Talk:Home_winemaking --Chasingmytail (talk) 20:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

writing a how to
I will be brewing my first batch starting on sunday. I am new to wiki's and do not know how to create the page. I want to make a How To Brew Beer in wikibooks. It can contain recipes and techniques there. It looks like they have How To -> Cookbook so I am not totally sure where to put the page even if I knew how to create it. - whoops forgot to log in --SupIAmMike 20:40, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

History
Agreed. Homebrewing has been around for quite a long time-- it was once the safest way to drink water. How about a collaberative effort to summarize the history of homebrewing chronologically and geographically? Where to start? pACMANx 20:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


 * That's covered to some extent at History of beer. &mdash; goethean &#2384; 20:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Fair enough! How about one of those deals where a good synopsis of the history, particularly as it pertains to homebrewing, is here with one of those "click here for full article" deals? I feel that an article on homebrewing should contain some mention - perhaps just in refernce or summary - of the history of the art. Unrelated... Isn't the "enjoyable and rewarding" language in violation of NPOV? pACMANx 23:55, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Editing Decisions
First of all, I would like some comment on an editing decision. Links to non-national associations are begining to appear again. Extreme Unction, or do you prefer Unc? seems to have worked to a rule of one recognised national association per country only. My proposal is to stick to this; maybe with the addition of one or two other national and supra-national references.

I am proposing to remove the link to the New York Homebrewers Guild. Comments???

DavidP02 19:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Some editors may keep adding them, but those of us following the discussion can keep removing them. -MrFizyx 19:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks for supporting the edit. I have changed the structure slightly to reflect more precisely the intent of the section. It may even help... DavidP02 19:37, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Secondly, I am a bit dubious about the See Also section. Why not support the wikibook up front of the document? The rest of the references are almost certain to come up in the text.


 * Works for me. I usually see wikibook links in the external links section, though. &mdash;ptk✰fgs 21:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Tables & Pictures
I'm noticing that the article is becoming one long block of text. I've moved tables to my sandbox for further work, please feel free to take a look and thanks to ptk for the heads up.

I'm currently gathering pictures from various contacts for inclusion, but any suggestions welcome.

DavidP02 22:45, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I've inserted a minimum equipment table. It certainly deserves a good debate! DavidP02 00:12, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Picture deletion
I added two pictures last night with the full written permission of the copyright owner and somebody has simply deleted them. Can anybody explain why they have been delted, when I have obtained permission for them to be used?
 * I could do with some help on this issue. I really don't want to get into tit for tat reversions when I am labelling the permissions wrongly on the uploads or something. I think I have them right and I'm surprised the pictures have been deleted. I have full written permission to release them to the public domain... I don't want to get hung up on this but would like to reference and add pictures to what I have done so far before moving on to the latter parts of the article DavidP02 22:15, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Plastic Bottle reuse myth
This line needs to be removed: "For storage and dispensing some brewers use plastic; while PET plastic is popular, it should be considered that plastic has a limited shelf life and that, during degradation of polymers, monomers [known to be carcinogenic] are released." This is merely an urban legend and is mentioned at Snopes.com under toxins. Trumpy 03:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Horrible Pictures
The pictures here look horrible. Why is the guy fermenting his beer in a gasoline container? Get a few pictures of a glass carboy and some clean looking bottles. These pictures give home brewing a poor image. And what kind of person transfers their beer standing up like that? It just looks ridiculous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.151.39 (talk) 04:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I would imagine that he is able to fit 3-4 of those containers in the same space as 2 round carboys. I have been looking for a container of similar dimensions for fermentation and it never occurred to me to use a jerrycan. Chasingmytail (talk) 12:11, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It is a large Jerrycan, and an ingenious use of one. Red - Gasoline, Yellow - Desiel, Blue - Kerosene, Tan - Water (food grade), although you will see people using blue containers for water due to the natural association of blue to water. They used to be standard as either 2 or 4 gallons, but now come in many different sizes because of the durability and versatility.

How-To / Safety information
I moved this to the talk page since it doesn't seem to work well in the article. Can anyone think of a more relevant place to put it?

Home Beer Brewing Safety

Remember that boiling anything on the stovetop brings some risk of burns or accidents. Obviously when making up your own home brews, you want to be mindful of children that are nearby and of your own safety as well. Most home brew generators bring about the same risks, as you’re still dealing with very hot fluids. The risk of burns from the steam is even greater, as boiling water immediately begins to cool once it hits the cool air, but with a home brew generator, this steam is hot even in the cooler air. If it makes contact with your skin, you have a greater chance of suffering severe burns than if you had even spilled boiling water on yourself.

Brewing Time

Most home brew generators are made from pressure cookers and some tubing. The steam created by the pressure cooker is transferred to your mash and begins to cook it the way it would when it boils, but because steam permeates it completely, the mash is cooked in much less time when you use a home brew generator than when you simply boil it.

A Modified Generator

A good pressure cooker that you can use as your home brew generator can be expensive, and it can be tricky to outfit it for your brewing process. Most online instructions for using such an element call for drilling a special hole in the lid of the pressure cooker in order to run the tubing to the mash. Obviously if you don’t know what you’re doing with a drill or make even a slight mistake, you can easily ruin a very expensive piece of kitchen equipment.

Home Beer Brewing Patience

If you’re in a hurry for your mash to boil, obviously the decision of whether or not to use a home brew generator is going to be up to you, but you might ask yourself if homemade beer is really the hobby for you if patience is not one of your virtues. Even if you can rush through the mash and wort process, you still need to let your mixture sit and ferment for days, even weeks at a time. Trying to rush the process at all can ruin the best of mixtures, even if you use a specially designed home brew generator. You might compare it to cooking a pot roast in the microwave - sure, it will cook that way, and a lot faster, but how will it actually taste?

--Chasingmytail (talk) 20:59, 1 May 2009 (UTC)