Talk:Homer's Ithaca/Archive 1

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This article is intended to be a place for presentation of the variety of theories which historically have been put forward, on the exact geographical location of Homer's "Ithaca" per his Odyssey: the scientific angle -- archaeology, philology, geology, climatology, etc. -- per the Discussion/Talk at Paliki, Homer's Ithaca.

In other words, there are plenty of Wikipedia articles about the history, the literature, the Homeric poems, etc. By contrast this article is trying to address the archaeology, specifically -- also the associated disciplines which increasingly become involved, nowadays -- tree-ring counting, pond pollen analysis, etc., etc. -- à la Schliemann's "scientific" hunt for "the real Troy", only with modern updates too.

i.e. -- this taken form the Paliki page discussion/talk -- the typology would be,


 * Ithaca (existing) -- general / tourist / modern local government article


 * Homer's Ithaca (new stub) -- history of all of the "Homeric Ithaca" geographic location theories (some of them archaeological, some not)


 * Paliki, Homer's Ithaca (existing) -- Paliki theory detail & archaeology


 * Lefkas, Homer's Ithaca (future?) -- Lefkas theory detail & archaeology (Dörpfeld)


 * Ithaki, Homer's Ithaca (future?) -- Ithaki theory detail & archaeology


 * etc.

--Kessler 17:42, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


 * This does not have a standard wikipedia introduction. In fact, the first sentance implies knowledge of the topic of the article. Almost all wikipedia articles make sense if you don't know what "Homer's Ithaca" or whatever the subject of the article, is. This is kind of written the way some things in wikibooks are. This screams either re-write or transwiki to me --Anonymous

OK, I just did that to start the stub -- will do a re-write.

--Kessler 23:15, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Categories
I find no compelling reason to place Homer's Ithaca in the earth science categories provided. Paleorthid 22:05, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Smithsonian article
Smithsonian (magazine) has in its April 2006 issue an article on pages 92-100 about Bittlestone's theory. GRBerry 01:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Link to article —Saltmarsh 16:39, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've added that and two other cites to the article. Also, noting the lack of citation for the previous lede statement that "modern Ithaca is generally accepted to be Homer's island by most scholars", I've noted the Paliki proposal in the lede and softened the language about modern Ithaca. ★NealMcB★ (talk) 03:20, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

BBC news article
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6256807.stm 193.77.19.5 16:25, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

"Leading precursors"
I think this section needs a better name.

It implies "precursors to Homer's Ithaca", but seems to be a list of people putting forth hypotheses as to where it was (the topic of the article).

"Precursors" just seems wrong. Should it be "theorists"? "Investigators", perhaps?

Also, the way it is written is a bit awkward -

"Name(s) - writing in (years) - he (etc.)" is poor sentence structure.

If written:

"Name(s) - writing in (years) - thought that..." would be a decent sentence, for example.

Perhaps also subsections by century would be a good idea?

Huw Powell (talk) 17:20, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

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