Talk:Homophobia in the African American community

Removed info
Daily Kos is not a reliable source:

Wholesomegood (talk) 04:08, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

merged Homophobia in the Black Diasporic community article with this one
The original Homophobia in the Black Diasporic community article is god awful. So I moved that articles information here.

Homophobia in the Black Diasporic community is any negative prejudice or form of discrimination within the Black Diasporic community towards homosexuals or people who identify as LGBT. Despite the black community being more likely to self-identify as being LGBT, homophobia from black people is common.

United States
In a 2012 survey of 120,000 adults, African Americans were more likely to self-identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT) than other racial or ethnic groups in the United States. According to the data, 4.6% of African-Americans identify as LGBT, significantly higher than 3.4% of the population overall.

Homosexuality is often seen as antithetical to being black in the African American community. One of the main reasons for this is because of the black communities' associations with the church in the United States. Many black advocacy groups have disputed that homophobia is more prevalent in the African American community than other groups as surveys have shown that their attitude towards homosexuality are similar to the rest of the population.

Barack Obama made a statement to the African American community ""If we are honest with ourselves, we'll acknowledge that our own community has not always been true to King's vision of a beloved community," and then went on to say "We have scorned our gay brothers and sisters instead of embracing them."

Some in the African American community still see AIDS as a gay disease and homophobia is one of the main barriers preventing better treatment for people in AIDS in the black community. The Article "AIDS still thought of as a gay disease in black America" stated "But the truth is this: while nearly 600,000 African Americans are living with HIV, and as many 30,000 newly infected each year, there is still within the black community one in five living with HIV and unaware of their infection; and, they are disproportionately heterosexuals. As long as we continue to think of HIV/AIDS as a gay disease, we'll not protect ourselves from this epidemic.

Britain
Homophobia in the Black British community is prevalent in the United Kingdom. Many homosexuals in the black community get married or have significant others of the opposite sex to hide their sexuality. In 1998 Justin Fashanu, a gay footballer killed himself after publicly coming out to his brother. There is a lot of hate music written in the black community towards LGBT people; campaigns such as Stop Murder Music have tried to counteract this. Much of the black community sees homosexuality as a 'white disease'.

Sad attempt at a 'revenge' article
The article-creator's own sources place African-American support for gay marriage at 59% and says "that black people have now become more supportive of marriage equality than whites are." Yet the editor claims that "Blacks have been consistently polled to be mostly anti-gay." The editor has created another attack page, Homophobia in the Latino community, but notice the glaring lack of a Homophobia in the White community article. This racist attempt to pathologize Blacks and Latinos was clearly motivated by the overwhelming "keep" votes when Racism in the LGBT community was put up for deletion. The article doesn't even distinguish which "Black community" it's targeting, in the process failing to meet a global perspective. Am86 (talk) 03:45, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

This will not be a revenge article when I'm finished with it. I'm going to make all these articles well sourced. Besides we don't have an article about racism in the Heterosexual Cisgender community. So why would we need one about Racism in the White community.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 04:04, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Your comparison doesn't make logical sense. I asked why there isn't an article about Homophobia in the White community. Is homophobia a special quality exclusive to Blacks or Latinos? What can be covered in this article that isn't already covered in Homophobia? Am86 (talk) 04:25, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I see that you added "One of the main reasons for this is because of the black communities associations with the church in the United States." There is an already an article on Christianity and homosexuality. What does homophobia have to do with race? Am86 (talk) 04:29, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Homophobia in the White community will probably be covered in the Homophobia article. You do realize that homophobia in ethnic communities is a huge problem for LGBT People of Color. You might be right this might have started as a revenge article but starting tommorow I'm going to make it and other articles of this type good articles. They already have alot of sources. And homophobia has nothing to do with ethnicity. Thats not the point of this article anymore than racism has to do with sexual orientation/gender identity.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 04:31, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know about this being a "revenge" article, but the article seems like a coatrack to me (and this is coming from a pansexual black man).  Erpert  Who is this guy? 07:01, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Terrible Article
The article lacks a lead, probably because it is totally unclear on what its topic is. Currently it appears to be purely about African-American attitudes to gays, but fudges the issue by describing itself as being about "the black community". There is no such a global "black community" united in its homophobia.

Yes, there is a section about the UK, but this amounts to little other than a "me to".

If a lead could be written that establishes two things;


 * what "black community" is being discussed and how it is identified
 * there is something uniquely different about its homophobia distinct from all others

Then it would be a whole lot more convincing an article. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 00:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Maybe the article should be split into separate articles Homophobia in the African American community and Homophobia in the Black British community so the articles can it be more specific what is being discussed and how it is identified.Dwanyewest (talk) 00:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Do you honestly think that Homophobia in the Black British community could stand on its own. Usually the reason for a split is because an article is too big and covers too much information. I really do not think that the British side has nearly enough information or sources.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 06:41, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

I think the current title is a good compromise Rainbowofpeace.Dwanyewest (talk) 14:57, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

I think we should either discuss the split proposal now or take it down its been up since August and no one has really talked about it. I still think the article is small enough as it is and don't think it would benefit from the split however i wont take down the notice until its either been discussed or a few days have gone by.-Rainbowofpeace (talk) 06:26, 28 November 2013 (UTC)