Talk:Honda Prelude

Question: What does Si on the Honda vehicle line mean? For example Honda Prelude 2.2 L SH. SH stands for "Super Handling". I have yet to figure this out.

Answer: Si stands for Sport Injection. Si models began with the Civic/CRX Si models in the early to mid 1980s. For instance, the top Civic was a carbureted "S" model until the 1986 introduction of the fuel-injected "Si". The industry was still transitioning to fuel injection at the time, so it was important to point out the feature. Honda simply stuck with this popular model designation from then on.

2 Gen engines
Has no one bothered to mention the JDM B20A(2.0) DOHC in the list of engines? remembering it is 160hp. also i don't see any mention of the fact that the 2 gen also came out with 4 different SOHC engines the A18A(1.8) A20A(2.0) and the ?? 1.8 ?? 2.0 CVCC engines Maximum effect (talk) 23:20, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Series III steering
I had the cheap version without the four wheel steering (the "2.0 EX") for a while. It under-steered appallingly, to the point of being dangerous when driven hard. It's the reason I got rid of it. I'm pretty confident it wasn't a fault with my particular car. I think it's worth mentioning that perhaps the car wasn't engineered to work without the four wheel steering, and that the decision to make a low-cost version may have been a bad one. But obviously, this is original research. Does anybody have any magazine reviews or other references we could cite, in which this was ever documented or discussed? – Kieran T  ( talk  16:07, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


 * you might find this interesting http://mustardcat.brinkster.net/p3g/Documentation/Articlesads/Roadandtrack8889/rt3.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.183.235 (talk • contribs) 01:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! – Kieran T  (' talk ') 01:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I think there's a big difference between the 4WS version being better at handling than the 2WS version, and suggesting the Mk.3 Prelude "wasn't engineered to work without the four wheel steering". If the 2WS suffered from understeer whilst being "driven hard', then that only makes it like nearly every other front engined, front wheel drive, 2 wheel steering car ever made! Considering it was an optional extra to begin with (i.e. the standard car was always going to be 2WS), I think it's incredibly difficult to prove that the car was engineered specifically to be 4WS, without speaking to an insider from Honda who was involved in the project. The 4WS offers MUCH better handling, not because the 2WS is bad, but because 4WS is so good. A comparison between the handling attributes of the mk.3 2WS Prelude and other similar cars of the era could potentially show that the 2WS Prelude was only as bad/good as many competitors. The sentence in the article stating that the car was severely criticised for understeer is good enough IMO, but needs a verifiable citation - how about the article provided by anon, above? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wardycatt (talk • contribs) 13:56, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

generation 4 started in 92 not 91
I believe the info about the 91 'lude is wrong —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.171.160.87 (talk • contribs) 05:34, September 2, 2006.


 * Gen 4 did start in 1991 in Japan. See this link.

I have a 93 gen 4, my particular model, Si VTEC, came out in 1991 without a shadow of a doubt.

5th gen brake size
I can not recall what size they are exactly, but they are no way near 15 and 14in. Someone who knows should fix this. --Integra15 21:27, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I have ,what my title says it is, a 1991 Honda Prelude SiR. The model on the title says SiR. The model discription says Si ALB/. Can any one tell me more about the SiR. I have contact the Honda Motors Headquarters, and they said that the R stood for Type R. It was just a model they provided in Japan. I still can't find any info on this. I believe the title and Honda themselves, but I want more info. Thanks

SiR stands for Sport Injected Type R (where R refers to the performance orientation of the vehicle just as a true Type R is totally race oriented) 144.135.4.164 (talk)

Convertible picture
The image used to show the convertible version of the Prelude is not a real convertible, it is a photoshop of a Prelude coupe. --Cirilobeto 00:06, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Updated caption to correct generation and added 'concept art'. --Soniclude 01:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

SiR stands for Sport Injected Type R (where R refers to the performance orientation of the vehicle just as a true Type R is totally race oriented) —Preceding unsigned and misplaced comment added by 144.135.4.164 (talk) 19:21, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

H23A Torque figure
I've seen in several locations the max torque of the H23A is not at 5300rpm but at 4500rpm, exactly 1000rpm lower than the H22A's max torque figure stated at 5500rpm. Buoya (talk) 04:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

your math fails 5300 - 4500 - 800 not 1000 fail —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.54.80.200 (talk) 00:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

The H22A's figure is at 5500rpm. So your understanding of what is going on fails, and that's 5300 - 4500 = 800 (equals sign failure). Thus, thou art owned. Buoya (talk) 13:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

How was Ayrton Senna involved in the design of the 4th Gen Prelude?
I heard that legendary 3-time F1 World Champion Ayrton Senna was involved in the design of this iteration of the car, and I would like to know in what way. I do know that he tuned the suspension of the NSX, but do not know how he contributed to the 4th gen prelude other than appearing in a few commercials for the japanese market.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNJlDi6Xhmo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqxaoFtmpsk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuMSbv9JYpI

Please answer promptly... thanks! 98.211.215.37 (talk) 02:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

1st-gen automatics
I'm still looking for a source to back it up but I'm pretty sure after ditching the Hondamatic, the USDM models got an optional 3-speed slushbox, not a 4-speed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.99.199.55 (talk) 02:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

==It is mentioned in the article that in 1997 the NHSTA rated the prelude as "significantly better than average" in terms of crashworthiness. perhaps it is worth noting that the 3rd generation (88-91) received extremely poor safety ratings, including a driver's safety rating of 1 out of 5 stars, when tested by the NHSTA (possibly also in '97).

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/safety.aspx?year=1991&make=Honda&model=Prelude

http://www.carsafetyratings.org/cars/Honda/Prelude/1991/1150/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.162.60 (talk) 04:27, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Accord coupe De facto replacement?
I don't agree that the de facto replacement for the prelude was the Accord coupe. If anything the RSX took the market of the prelude followed by the 8th generation civic si (which has similiar engine hp of around 200). Esp4p3 (talk) 00:40, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

The European Accord coupe looks a bit more like a Mk.5 Prelude than the Integra, however the engine specifications on the Integra RSX are a closer match to the late Preludes (200bhp on the H22A8 [BB8]). The question is, can we prove that the Accord coupe is the de facto replacement to the Prelude? The answer at the moment seems to be no, and for that reason the article shouldn't make such a claim. Either that, or add to the sentence to include other cars that were a similar class, age and style to the Prelude - it should be more of a suggestion than an affirmation. The fact is that we don't have an article from Honda stating exactly what the de facto replacment is. According to the sidebar at the top of the article, the successor was the S2000. Considering the S2000 is a totally different car in just about every respect, the Accord coupe or - more likely - the Integra RSX are surely the true successors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wardycatt (talk • contribs) 15:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Engine List and Gen 4 Details
I don't think the Engine List belongs in the article - I recall quite a few discussions about not using lists in articles, and it's really not important to the page. Additionally, while other vehicle pages list changes from year to year, I didn't see any for Gen 4 (didn't look at the other ones), and I know it changed in that time.98.127.168.159 (talk) 08:51, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, this needs some cleanup. Wikipedia is not a reference manual or collection of indiscriminate information.  Some basic engine info is okay, but if there are details unimportant to the common reader available on the other sites, please link to them in External links instead. --Vossanova o&lt; 15:53, 16 August 2010 (UTC):)
 * Disagree. The inclusion of engine information is useful and in no way detrimental. Even if someone wanted to create a series of Honda Engines pages (a vast task), the information about which engine was in which vehicle would be hard to determine. I fail to see how less information is more helpful. If the information were off-topic or tangential, I could understand the complaint, but simply saying "no lists because that's what others say" doesn't make any sense. The joy of Wikipedia is its open peer review process. Links to other sources break (often) resulting in the diminishment of the information that is wikipedia's reason d'etre, 14 June, 2011.

1993 Honda Prelude vtec
I have just bought my grandson a 1993 Honda Prelude Vtec. While driving it I noticed that the RPM was up to 4,000 at 70 mph. Since it is a 5 speed manual shift I thought perhaps it would require less rpm's than that. Does these rpm's sound about right for 70mph? Or, is this an indication of a problem that needs to be looked at.

Thanks Tobywms — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobywms (talk • contribs) 22:42, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Fifth generation Type-S PS
The chart for the 5th generation Type-S shows it having 500PS... I think that may be a typo, can anyone verify and correct it? Mkid1 (talk) 18:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

How about the tuner scene, racing scene?
Honda Prelude's seen on the road today are rarely stock. Stock Preludes are hard to come by today. There are huge prelude meets that take place very often; most take place in the east coast. There are several forums online such as preludezone, preludepower, and preludeonline. Many preludes take place in Autocross races.

The Honda Civic has an enthusiast and racing category, so why not the car that was based of the Civic according to this article.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by NJIT HUM Poonit P (talk • contribs) 17:23, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Trims and engine pairings wrong
whomever edited this page last changed a lot of the information on these cars. I have a 1992 si 4ws which is no longer even listed. The whole page needs to be addressed and corrected. 24.26.240.203 (talk) 23:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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