Talk:Honduras/Archive 3

Update on crime rate/murder rate statistics
The first section of the article contains the following sentence which is outdated, Honduras' murder rate has decreased since 2014 to 42.8 per 100,000 and Venezuela as of 2017 has the world's highest murder rate, so it should be updated:

"Honduras has the world's highest murder rate and high levels of sexual violence.[14][15]"

Proposed update: Honduras held once the highest murder rate in the world but has since lowered it by almost half, now at 42.8 murders per 100,000 inhabitants as of 2017. Authorities said that the 2017 figures marked Honduras’ lowest homicide levels in a decade.

Source: https://www.insightcrime.org/news/analysis/2017-homicide-round-up/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carloscast64 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Include 1-2 sentences about climate change
I think the article ought to include at least 1-2 sentences about how climate change is affecting Honduras already now as the country's climate change vulnerability is high. We could also wikilink to this article (although it's not very good yet): Climate change in Honduras.EMsmile (talk) 03:20, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 April 2021
Good afternoon Wikipedia community, I request that you give me authorization to edit this page because it has several errors and inconsistencies and is that the crime section is posted 2 times, I mean that there are 2 paragraphs that both talk about crime I request your help to correct that error 186.2.144.78 (talk) 20:58, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but it isn't possible to let you edit unless you register an account and become an extended confirmed user. The protection on the page is unfortunately necessary due to persistent edits by a user who has been blocked under numerous accounts. Can you provide specific language here that you believe should be added, with sources cited, and indicate which language it should replace? Then someone can evaluate it and make the changes if they're appropriate. Largoplazo (talk) 22:48, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Add needed citation on 4.2 Foreign Relations
"4.2 Foreign Relations - Honduras and Nicaragua had tense relations throughout 2000 and early 2001 due to a boundary dispute off the Atlantic coast. Nicaragua imposed a 35% tariff against Honduran goods due to the dispute." In the page Foreign relations of Honduras, https://2009-2017.state.gov/outofdate/bgn/honduras/7265.htm is cited as the source regarding the 35% tarrif. I am requesting that the same citation be added here. Radostin04 (talk) 18:10, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅, and thank you very much!  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 21:08, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 June 2021
In the ethnicities section, "merge white and mestizo percentage" in Honduras they are the same category 190.242.25.165 (talk) 05:14, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * ? The very existence of the term mestizo is to denote an ethnic classification separate from white. And Honduras does not consist 91% of people classified as "white". Largoplazo (talk) 10:19, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:15, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
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Suggestion for section on science and technology
Hi, just a suggestion, many country articles have sections or subsections for 'science and technology', this could be a section on this article as well. The UNESCO Science Report may be a good place ot start and can copied from directly using these instructions.

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 12:32, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Music section: recommend links to Guillermo Anderson and Polache articles, add Banda Blanca
Guillermo Anderson and Polache are mentioned under music without links to corresponding articles by same name. Recommend adding reference to Banda Blanca as best known musical group, who's Spanish rendition of the song, Sopa de Caracol is one of the best known and most played popular songs in Honduras (perhaps other than Anderson's, En Mi Pais, often referred to as the Second National Anthem of Honduras), and played all over the world as well. --Catrachos (talk) 16:02, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Listed ethnic percentages are inaccurate (Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 October 2021)
The ethnic percentages listed in the CIA World Factbook, at least for Honduras, are very unreliable and outdated.

The 2011 national Honduras census found that

80.9% of the population was Mestizo

10.2% identified as White only

5.7% identified as Indigenous only

3.8% identified as Black only

and 3.1% identified as some other race (Arabs and Asians)

The 2013 national Honduran census found that 82.93% of the population was Mestizo (or was a White or Black that identified as Mestizo)

7.87% of the population was White

7.25% of the population was Indigenous

around 1.39% of the population was Black (including Garifunas)

0.55% were identified as some other race

This is reflected in the Spanish Wikipedia articles, which uses official census and related reports for it's citations

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupos_%C3%A9tnicos_de_Honduras#Censo_de_2013

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honduras#Etnografia

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograf%C3%ADa_de_Honduras

The lack of consistency comes from the fact that, much like in Mexico, more and more White Hondurans simply identify as Mestizo. The "(mixed Indigeneous and White)" should be removed and a footnote added next to "Mestizo" addressing this discrepancy while keeping the White percentage separate. Although, they *could* also be combined as "Mestizo and White", as is the case in the English Wikipedia article of Costa Rica. Afro-Hondurans, such as the Garifuna, typically don't identify as Mestizo, although many are culturally Ladino. 107.184.210.252 (talk) 07:10, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting question.svg Question: Would you be able to cite your figures using outside, non-Wikipedia citations? We can't directly cite articles on a Wikipedia.  RFZYN SPY  talk 04:41, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Curbon7 (talk) 18:39, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

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There are two typos in the penultimate paragraph of Section 5.3 (Economy/Economic inequality), please change from

Middle class Honduras is a small group defines by relatively low membership and income levels.[86] Movement from lower to middle class is typically facilitated by higher education.[86] Professionals, students, farmers, merchants, business employees, and civil servants are all considered a part of the Honduran middle class.[86] Opportunities for employment and the industrial and commercial sectors are slow growing, limiting middle class membership.[86]

to

Middle class Honduras is a small group defined by relatively low membership and income levels.[86] Movement from lower to middle class is typically facilitated by higher education.[86] Professionals, students, farmers, merchants, business employees, and civil servants are all considered a part of the Honduran middle class.[86] Opportunities for employment and the industrial and commercial sectors are slow-growing, limiting middle class membership.[86]
 * ✅ ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:24, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 November 2021
found a citation for a citation needed sentence. Sunstarrrr (talk) 22:54, 22 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:12, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

I want to add a citation for the sentence "Since independence, nearly 300 small internal rebellions and civil wars have occurred in the country, including some changes of régime.[citation needed]". The citation is United States. Department of State. Bureau of Public Affairs. Office of Public Communication. “Honduras.” Department of State publication. Background notes series (1992): 1-5..
 * ✅. Heartmusic678 (talk) 13:15, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of "Template:Largest cities of Honduras"
Template:Largest cities of Honduras has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 10:39, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 January 2022
Grammar corrections: In the Sports section, please add an "s" after "Honduras'" in the two instances where it says "Honduras' first international competition". In the Geography section, below the topography map, please add an "s" after "Honduras'" where it says "Honduras' topography". With a few exceptions (which Honduras's is not among) the normal English rule for forming possessives of singular nouns ending in "s" is to add "'s". This is also consistent with how the possessive is pronounced in English: Honduras-iz. Thank you. Schnackal (talk) 22:30, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Agreed, in conformance with Wikipedia's manual of style, at MOS:POSSESSIVE. Largoplazo (talk) 00:35, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

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Honduras
Honduras is a nice-looking place yes.....but the crime that goes on is not talked about. Women are targets there and they are being killed. As young as 13 years old, women, teens, and kids fear for there lives every day. Police do nothing for they don't have the same technology as new advanced countries such as the US have. It's a shame for people to be so worried about the Kardashians, the newest trend, and what happened to this celebrity. When there are kids, mothers, daughters,tias, cousins, and friends in fear for each other's lives. Yes, we can't do much the most we can do is spread awareness of such events not only here but everywhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilyoctavious05 (talk • contribs) 18:24, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There is a properly proportioned section about crime in the article, which in turn points to an entire article about crime in Honduras. However, while Wikipedia's mission is to bring knowledge, spreading awareness of issues is not its purpose, as Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Largoplazo (talk) 20:53, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Crime
There are two crime sections, — Paleo Neonate  – 15:48, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. I've just merged them. Review by others is welcome. Largoplazo (talk) 22:45, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 May 2022
more images in the page 190.92.19.89 (talk) 20:05, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: In particular, because I strongly suspect, based on your IP address and the nature of your request (combination of Honduras and pictures), that you're once again the blocked editor User:Honduras200010—the user, I believe, who's the reason this page is protected to begin with. Two IP addresses in the same /24 range are currently posted for investigation at the sockpuppet investigation page. Largoplazo (talk) 22:31, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Poverty
The economy/poverty section is very out of date. It needs updating alot. Alot of the information is old and poor. Percy2345 (talk) 01:28, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 July 2022
Luis Alfredo Romero (talk) 18:45, 8 July 2022 (UTC) I am a Honduran photographer and many of my images and I had uploaded many of my images here to Wikipedia, I would like to insert my images and description to this page please, thank you very much. Thank you


 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: Hi ! A good place to start with this request is reading through Wikipedia's guidance on image usage. If you'd like to publish your photos under a license compatible with use on Wikipedia, follow the instructions for uploading them. Once you've prepared and uploaded a specific image that you'd like to include in this article then come back here and provide a link to it along with a detailed explanation of how you'd like it included. --N8wilson 🔔 02:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)