Talk:Honor (brand)

Requested move 5 July 2016

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: No consensus to move the article has been established within the RM time period and thus defaulting to not moved. &mdash; Music1201  talk  18:36, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Huawei Honor → Honor (brand) – Suggest moving this article from Huawei Honor to Honor (brand). "Huawei Honor" is not the name of the brand, as evidenced by many sources, including Huawei, CNET, International Business Times (2015), International Business Times (2016), PCWorld, Digital Trends, TechWorld, The Economic Times, etc., etc., which all refer to the brand as simply "Honor". Currently there are no other Wikipedia articles about brands of similar name. I propose keeping "Huawei Honor" as a redirect to Honor (brand). Please note, I do have a conflict of interest here as I am working on behalf of Huawei, via agency Burson-Marsteller Hong Kong as part of my work with Beutler Ink, and would like other editors to review this proposed move. Thanks in advance for you help. Inkian Jason (talk) 14:46, 5 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - I can see that sources frequently identify the brand as "Honor". It is also clear that the names of the phones under the brand consistently start with the manufacturer name: Huawei Honor 7, Huawei Honor 5X, Huawei Honor 5c, Huawei Honor 4C. ~Kvng (talk) 15:08, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose current title uses WP:NATURAL disambiguation and accurately describes the topic. SST  flyer  06:52, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose – No benefit for readers at this stage. I understand that the company wishes to elevate Honor to an autonomous brand but today it remains closely associated to Huawei phones. Compare Mini (marque) which was transitioned from Austin Mini to a standalone brand after being purchased by BMW, so they could address other consumer segments than their main brand and develop a range of models instead of calling it the BMW Mini. But this took years to become common usage, and common usage is the key guideline in naming articles on Wikipedia. — JFG talk 09:39, 14 July 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requesting help to implement an expanded article
I have spent the last several months researching and writing an updated and expanded version of this article. I have been working with Huawei and Burson-Marsteller Hong Kong to ensure the article's accuracy, and was paid to complete this project as part of my work at Beutler Ink. The existing Wikipedia article has a single source and two banners identifying concerns (lack of sourcing and a need for more specific categories). My goals were to update and expand the article by providing a company overview and history, improve its sourcing and structure, and add information about Honor's business model and flagship products.

I won't be editing the article directly because of my conflict of interest. Instead, I've published my draft in my user space here, which editors may review and implement in the main space as appropriate. I'm fine with breaking the article down into sections, separating the discussions in new messages, if reviewing editors prefer. I believe this new draft is a vast improvement over the existing article, and I did my best to keep the content very matter-of-fact, neutral, and easy to verify, but I will let unbiased reviewers decide. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:26, 16 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your edit request. I've taken a look at your proposed draft and I am mostly satisfied with it. I have now implemented all of it, bar one phrase:
 * The company has described Honor as "a brand that's not afraid to do things differently, to be brave and bring about change".
 * Although you have provided sources for this, this reads very promotionally and I have therefore removed it. It doesn't make much of a difference to the article anyway, but it sounds promotional (as I'm sure you'd agree). If you're adamant on keeping this phrase, then you may re-write it to make it sound more neutral. Also, I want to apologise for the delay in replying to you - there is a severe backlog. All the best and a happy new year to you, st  170  e  20:22, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for reviewing this edit request. Your explanation is helpful. Hoping your year is off to a great start, and thanks again for your assistance. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:01, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Edit request to update article
On behalf of Huawei via Burson Marsteller Hong Kong, and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I have a request for updating this Wikipedia article's "History" section. Honor has released a few additional products since the Honor 8, so I propose adding the following content after "Honor's third flagship phone, Honor 8, was also released in 2016":

In December 2016, Honor unveiled the Honor Magic, which was launched on the eve of the brand's third anniversary and includes artificial intelligence software designed to provide "intelligent interactive features" based on user data. In January 2017, at the Consumer Electronics Show, Honor announced that the Honor 6X, which was previously available in China, would expanded into 13 additional markets, including the United States. The phone earned "best of CES 2017" awards from several technology publications, including Android Authority, Digital Trends, Slash Gear, and Talk Android. The flagship Honor 8 Pro, known as Honor V9 in China, launched in April 2017. Honor's fourth flagship phone, the Honor 9, was released in June 2017, and one million units were shipped within the first month.

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In December 2016, Honor unveiled the Honor Magic, which was launched on the eve of the brand's third anniversary and includes artificial intelligence software designed to provide "intelligent interactive features" based on user data. In January 2017, at the Consumer Electronics Show, Honor announced that the Honor 6X, which was previously available in China, would expanded into 13 additional markets, including the United States. The phone earned "best of CES 2017" awards from several technology publications, including Android Authority, Digital Trends, Slash Gear, and Talk Android. The flagship Honor 8 Pro, known as Honor V9 in China, launched in April 2017. Honor's fourth flagship phone, the Honor 9, was released in June 2017, and one million units were shipped within the first month.

✅ Additionally, for the "Products" section, I propose adding "Honor 6C (2017)" underneath the "Honor 5C (2016)" entry. Here is markup with formatted sourcing:

** Honor 6C (April 2017)

I won't edit the article directly because of my conflict of interest, but I seek a volunteer to make these updates for me, if appropriate. I am pinging you since you were kind enough to help with the Huawei Honor 8 Pro request recently. Thanks for your consideration! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:09, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello,, thanks for the invitation on my talk page. I am always willing to help and as you said this was not difficult in consideration. I can always count on your having your cats properly herded. A pleasure. I have marked 'green tick done' but please come review and let me know if you have any other needs, corrections, concerns. As before I leave for you to close with your resolved template. I have reset the template call to answered...    Fylbecatulous talk 00:41, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reviewing this edit request, and for marking as answered. Your help is much appreciated! Inkian Jason (talk) 14:53, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Request to restructure the "Products" section
On behalf of Huawei via Burson Marsteller Hong Kong, and as part of my work at Beutler Ink, I have returned with a request to restructure the article's "Products" section to give a clear understanding of the company's product lines. The below markup includes all of the products currently displayed in the article, and does not introduce or remove any sourcing. This is simply a request to re-order the current entries.

If the below markup were implemented, here's how the updates list would look:


 * V series
 * Honor V8 (2016)
 * Honor 8 Pro (Honor V9) (2017)


 * N series
 * Honor 7 (2015)
 * Honor 8 (2016)
 * Honor 9 (2017)


 * X series
 * Honor 3X (2013)
 * Honor 4X
 * Honor 5X (2015)
 * Honor 6X (2017)
 * Honor 7X


 * Lite series
 * Honor 8 Lite


 * Wearables
 * Honor Band Z1 (first released as Honor Band Zero in China), a watch-shaped, waterproof activity tracker and health band (2015)
 * Honor Band 3


 * Other products
 * Honor 3C (2013)
 * Honor 4 Play (2014) / Honor 4X (2015)
 * Honor 6 (2014)
 * Honor X1, also known as the MediaPad X1 (2014)
 * Honor 6 Plus (2014)
 * Honor 4C (2015)
 * Honor 7i (2015)
 * Honor X2, also known as the MediaPad X2 (2015)
 * Honor 5C (2016)
 * Honor Note 8
 * Honor 6C (April 2017)
 * Honor 9i (2017)

If this list looks good to reviewing editors, here is markup for updating the section:

* V series ** Honor V8 (2016) ** Honor 8 Pro (Honor V9) (2017)

* N series ** Honor 7 (2015) ** Honor 8 (2016) ** Honor 9 (2017)

* X series ** Honor 3X (2013) ** Honor 4X ** Honor 5X (2015) **Honor 6X (2017) ** Honor 7X

* Lite series ** Honor 8 Lite

* Wearables ** Honor Band Z1 (first released as Honor Band Zero in China), a watch-shaped, waterproof activity tracker and health band (2015) ** Honor Band 3

* Other products ** Honor 3C (2013) ** Honor 4 Play (2014) / Honor 4X (2015) ** Honor 6 (2014) ** Honor X1, also known as the MediaPad X1 (2014) ** Honor 6 Plus (2014) ** Honor 4C (2015) ** Honor 7i (2015) ** Honor X2, also known as the MediaPad X2 (2015) ** Honor 5C (2016) ** Honor Note 8 ** Honor 6C (April 2017) ** Honor 9i (2017)

I have one additional minor request, which is to replace the infobox image showing the Honor 8 with File:Huawei Honor 9.jpg, which shows the Honor 9, the brand's most recent mobile phone release. Is there a volunteer who is willing to review this request and copy over the propose markup appropriately? Inkian Jason (talk) 16:02, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Since you helped with the Huawei Honor 9 request, I was wondering if you'd consider taking a look at this request to restructure the brand article's "Products" section and update the infobox image? I've provided precise markup to copy over if the proposed changes are appropriate. If you're not interested, no problem. Thanks again! Inkian Jason (talk) 19:49, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help. I see there are two appearances of " **" (see Honor 7i and Honor Note 8), which is my fault. Are you able to fix this by removing " " and adding line breaks before the asterisks? I can provide specific markup if needed. Inkian Jason (talk) 20:15, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅. D4R1U5 (talk) 20:16, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have marked this edit request as answered. Inkian Jason (talk) 20:18, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Np. D4R1U5 (talk) 20:37, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Page move
Hello! I noticed the Honor (brand) page was moved by User:Ahmadkurdi44 recently, but this talk page was not carried over to correspond with Honor brand. I think Honor (brand) is the more appropriate article title, but I will let other editors decide. My primary concern is keeping the article and talk page together, especially since I added a disclosure to Draft talk:Honor (brand) (formerly Talk:Honor (brand)). I should note, it's been a while since I've worked on this page on behalf of Honor, and it's changed a fair bit. Are you able to put these pages back together? Inkian Jason (talk) 15:16, 12 August 2019 (UTC) If you think the page should be moved to Honor (brand), start a discussion here, motivating the change. It looks quite reasonable to me, but I do not know why the current name was chosen. Perhaps Ahmadkurdi44 can explain their actions. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 17:11, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Bringing this to your attention as well, given your recent edit. Inkian Jason (talk) 16:09, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * . No worries: there is currently no meaningful history at Talk:Honor (brand) so we can ask whichever admin moving Honor brand to Honor (brand) to also move this page (Draft talk:Honor (brand)) to Talk:Honor (brand). Pichpich (talk) 16:20, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * . Please check that the correct page and talk page combination has been achieved. I do not know what User:Ahmadkurdi44 was trying to achieve, but it was not done correctly and I am not sufficiently familiar with these pages to be sure I have fixed them properly.
 * There is already a tag at Honor (brand), so I will see what happens in the near future and then start a discussion if needed. Thanks for your reply. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:14, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I deleted per G6 and made the move as it seemed appropriate. Let me know if I missed anything. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 19:10, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks OK to me, thank you. Inkian Jason (talk) 19:13, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

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