Talk:Honor killing in the United States

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Patricia Said, claims both girls were killed for having boyfriends. Death threats had been made by Yaser against the girls. They ran away and were safe, but their mother brought them back. Yaser Said is still at large and at present time there is a $10,000 reward for his capture.[5]

That sentence doesn't make sense in the paragraph. There's no explanation other then "they ran away and were safe but their mother brought them back." Was this the night of the murder or months before?

It's not difficult to proofread. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.129.155 (talk) 23:21, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Neutrality
I have issues with some of these sources. Middle East Quarterly is considered to be a right-wing publication and it's giving more of an opinion than any fact. I've tried to start a Views and Reactions section, since the article gives the impression that the community is quiet or acquiescent to such murders, when they overwhelmingly don't. I can't even find an American Muslim on record who defends such a killing. Each of these murders was condemned by the local Muslim community, I think we should include those reactions as well, otherwise people are wrongfully getting the impression that it was tolerated. In the meantime, should we put up a neutrality tag until that's done? BrotherSulayman (talk) 10:22, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Aasiya Zubair?
I can't see in what way Aasiya Zubair is an "honor killing". The case looks like an ordinary murder of a spouse. Geoffrey.landis (talk) 04:24, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Some regard it as honor killing. OccultZone (talk) 08:32, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

American Muslim community response
The following makes a claim of "many" but only provides one quote and source.

"Many Muslim leaders in the US say that Islam does not promote honor killings and that the practice stems from sexism and tribal behavior that predates the religion."

Sources should be provided to further back this up, or it should be changed to "Muslim leaders in the US have said..." since that's about as granular as the current source allows. Furthermore, the quote and text immediately following are pulled straight from the article with no modification, as opposed to being explicitly quoted.

Mrfredricksen (talk) 00:54, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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other possible cases
WhisperToMe (talk) 07:53, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
 * http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99622481&ps=rs talks about an Afghan origin person being accused of committing attempted murder in 2008 and a Turkish origin person being accused of murder in 2004, but I don't know how each case was resolved.

Why is there no information on honour killings perpretated by non-muslims?
I'm quite confused why this article seems to be focused on honour killings perpretated by Muslim americans, there are a huge number of sources available online listing honour killings perpretrated by self-proclaimed Christians; particularly in instances the victims identified as LGBTQ. This article seems selective and is not really giving a full and balanced view of the subject matter. Purely due to differences in population sizes it is inevitable that most honuor killings perpretated in the US will be non-muslim in nature. Whether the rate of honour killing is higher or not in the muslim subsection of the population is an open question but should not be used to avoid giving a full account of the subject matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12usn12 (talk • contribs) 23:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * One would need to find cases where Reliable sources (reputable published newspapers, books, magazines, and academic journals) call the case an "honor killing". From what I have seen there are very few cases in the US. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:01, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * My criticism of the term is that honor killing are not meaningfully distinct from any other form of domestic violence. It all comes down to control and patriarchy. 73.246.150.163 (talk) 20:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Murdaugh
Could the Murdaugh murders be an example of honor killing? Alexander Murdaugh is currently on trial for allegedly killing his wife and son and also allegedly tried to attempt suicide in a manner that would enable his other son to collect his life insurance. The murders were, according to prosecutors, a potential attempt at detracting from embezzlement accusations, and the slain son was himself accused of crimes connected to a fatal boating accident. Hmm.

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