Talk:Honor system/Archive 1

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Libraries are usually free to join? That's strange, all those I've seen require a membership payment. And they allow "large quantities" of books to be borrowed? Again, in my experience the number you can take out is limited. This example appears somewhat anchronistic to me. Arvindn 08:35, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * A library is usually free to "join", although if you live in the municipality providing the library you are sort of already joined by the fact that you are paying taxes to operate it. Large quantities maybe, but certainly not all at once though.

Seems to me the library analogy isn't the best, because you are still having to report to someone that you are taking them out. The honor system means that you could just take something without paying for it, but you don't, because you have a moral code and it would be unethical. –radiojon 08:56, 2004 Apr 19 (UTC)

Reed College Honor Principle
This article should discuss or at least link to an article on the Reed College Honor Principle. The honor principle at Reed is much more real and effective than at The Citadel.

Mini Bars
Are hotel mini bars really operated on an honor system, in the US? Most hotels keep a tally of the exact contents of a mini bar and they reinventory it on a daily basis. When an item is missing, the user is presumed to have consumed it, and the user is charged. There is little way for the user to cheat the hotel.
 * That's what I thought too when I read the article. I've never seen a mini-bar in the US or Canada that used the honor system.  They're always inventoried and items are charged without you having to report them.142.59.153.99 08:05, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

financial 'honour' system
I've come across a system for looking after sporting equipment at a university which labels itself as an 'honour system', which it details as meaning that an undated cheque for £50 must be left with the overseeing department to be cashed if anything goes missing. This strikes me as very much NOT an honour system, but an automated fine system.

What do other people think?

Should mention be made of wether systems built on automated fines can be considered honour systems as well, or if the two concepts and mutually exclusive?

82.13.83.244 00:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Vanalism Removal
Removed line under "See also".

~Ark =^-^= 19:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

what is special about these university with "honor systems"
I think that list of universities with "honor systems" needs to be elaborated on. Are they setup where you take your exams without supervision and such? Or is it more like a policy that all students are expected to act with honesty and not to plagiarize? I think it would be near impossible to find a school without some clause in their policies/rules about academic honesty, but that is far from the academic equivalent of checking out your own groceries as explained in the "Retail" section. Dwr12 (talk) 04:48, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Allegheny College Honor Code
Allegheny College in Meadville, PA, could be added to the list of colleges with honor systems. See http://www.allegheny.edu/administration/deanofstudents/honorcode.php. When I attended the school we were allowed to take test materials and blue books and take tests anywhere we chose; I once took a final exam in a closet for quiet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.96.94 (talk) 22:45, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Purpose of the universities list
The list is not much use as it stands. Are there some universities that operate an honor system and some that don't? Is this a complete list of those that do? Not all those articles referred to contain any mention of honor system so there is no reason to include the link. ProfDEH (talk) 09:35, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Changes to UVA Honor System
The article does not reflect recent (Spring 2013) changes to the Honor System at the University of Virginia. In particular, a major change was instituted to make the system no longer single-sanction. Now it is possible to go through a process called Informed Retraction (see http://www.virginia.edu/honor/Informed-Retraction/). This seems relevant because the article currently emphasizes the severity of UVA's single sanction. Tkemp (talk) 02:08, 30 September 2013 (UTC)