Talk:Hooded plover

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Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Rename to Hooded Dotterel. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:05, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Hooded Plover → Hooded Dotterel – To have consistency with IOC English names. WP Birds have a policy of using IOC names unless there is a very good reason not to. Snowman (talk) 10:51, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Futile complaint: It should be Hooded plover or Hooded dotterel, per WP:NCCAPS. --BDD (talk) 17:34, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * But see WP:NCCAPS Chuunen Baka (talk  • contribs) 17:52, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The Wiki and many authorities use upper case in bird names. Snowman (talk) 19:32, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Support move as proposed.   - WPGA2345 -     ☛   03:32, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
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Requested move 2

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The result of the move request was: not moved. There was a weak consensus to keep the current title, and in any case a new move move request should nit have been opened so soon after the previous one. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:25, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Hooded Dotterel → Hooded Plover – The common name of Thinornis rubricollis is Hooded Plover, IOC's selected name (Hooded Dotterel) isn't yet a common name and the WP:BIRDS naming convention violates WP:LOCALCONSENSUS.
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Bidgee (talk) 08:47, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Oppose Better to have international rather than local names, leads to inconsistency with the name of the other member of the genus  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  14:56, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
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In this case, I can go with either name. The bird is only found in Australia, so WP:LOCAL CONSENSUS is more at play, however Jimfbleak's point of having consistency in the genus should also be taken into account. As a point of reference, there are 2 names the IOC uses in the genus Charadrius. Most of the species are .... Plover, except for the Eurasian Dotterel, "Charadrius morinellus'', so there is precedent should the consensus decide to change back to Hooded Plover....Pvmoutside (talk) 01:03, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Oppose. I support an international standard for common bird names. Hooded Dotterel is actually a more traditional common name for the bird; it was used by Gould and many others in the 19th, and for much of the 20th, centuries. In Australia 'dotterel' has been, and is often still, used for charadriids that breed within the continent rather than migrate to the Arctic, or for those not within the genus Charadrius (such as Hooded Dotterel) - hence Inland Dotterel, Red-kneed Dotterel and Black-fronted Dotterel. See also the Hoody's New Zealand congener and closest relative, the Shore Dotterel. Maias (talk) 00:02, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
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Specific name
Can someone explain why the species name is now cucullatus instead of rubricollis? The name cucullatus was coined by Vieillot in 1818; the name rubricollis by Gmelin in 1789. Should the latter not therefore have priority? Ptilinopus (talk) 04:57, 27 November 2018 (UTC)


 * See here: . Maias (talk) 11:54, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Endangered or Vulnerable ?
The article says one, the photo on the right shows the other. Somebody who knows what's going on should make a correction (not me, sorry!)LaurV (talk) 02:49, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 2 January 2024

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The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 14:38, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Hooded dotterel → Hooded plover – Based on phylogenetic studies this species has been moved from the genus Thinornis to the genus Charadrius by the IOC 14.1 (and by ebird/Clements Oct 2023). At the same time IOC (who we follow) has changed the English name to "Hooded plover". Hooded plover is actually the more traditional name and is used by many other sources including ebird/Clements. Aa77zz (talk) 12:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Support - Apart from the IOC convention, a quick internet search shows the general preference for Hooded plover. grungaloo (talk) 01:04, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

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