Talk:Hormel Foods/Archive 3

request edit August 23, #2
Hello, I would like to suggest new sources on the Dairy Brand patent. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: The name Dairy Brand was registered with the U.S. Patent Office in 1903.

Add: The name Dairy Brand was registered with the U.S. Patent Office in 1903.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:34, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Please allow me to format the patent info properly and re-submit with that info. Apologies. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:47, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 23, #3
Hello, I would like to suggest new sources on the Dairy Brand patent. On this request, I hope the patent is properly placed in the template. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: The name Dairy Brand was registered with the U.S. Patent Office in 1903.

Add: The name Dairy Brand was registered with the U.S. Patent Office in 1903.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:32, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 23, #4

Hello, I would like to suggest new source. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: Not-So-Sloppy-Joe Sloppy Joe sauce made its debut in 1985.[4]:183

Add:  Not-So-Sloppy-Joe Sloppy Joe sauce made its debut in 1985.

request edit August 23, #5
Hello, I would like to suggest a new source that is independent of Hormel. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: That same year Hormel bought Alderson's Mill and began selling Hormel Peerless Minnesota flour nationwide.[11]:85

Add:  In 1917, Hormel bought Alderson's Mill and began selling Hormel Peerless Minnesota flour nationwide.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:43, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 23, #6
Hello, I would like to suggest new sources that show the early company history and business relationship between George Hormel and Albert Friedrich. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: Hormel handled the production side of the business and his partner, Albert Friedrich, handled the retail side. The two dissolved their partnership in 1891 so that Hormel could start a complete meat packing operation on his own. [4]:5–7 Add: Hormel handled the production side of the business and his partner, Albert Friedrich, handled the retail side. The two dissolved their partnership in 1891 so that Hormel could start a complete meat packing operation on his own.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 00:10, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 24, #1
Hello, I would like to suggest new sources that show the early company history. Thank you.

Suggested new info:

Delete: In 1903 George decided to add a three-story hog-kill, a two-story beef-kill, an annex, an engine room, a machine shop and a casing production department.[11]:64–65 Add: In 1903 George decided to add a three-story hog-kill, a two-story beef-kill, an annex, an engine room, a machine shop and a casing production department. [11]:64–65

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:04, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Spintendo, Is it possible to cite the date of 1903 possibly? Thank you.Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:49, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 24, #2
Hello, I would like to update info on Dairy Brand. Thank you for your patience as I learn trademark versus patent best formatting practices. Suggested new info:

Delete: The name Dairy Brand was registered with the U.S. Patent Office in 1903.

Add: The name Dairy Brand was first registered for trademark in 1903. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:44, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 24, #4
Hello, I would like to suggest new sources that show the early company history. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: By 1916, Hormel products were routinely appearing in national magazines.[11]:77

Add: By 1916, Hormel products were routinely appearing in national magazines.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:58, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 27, #1
Hello, I would like to suggest a new source that shows the early company history and is independent of Hormel. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: By 1916, Hormel products were routinely appearing in national magazines.[11]:77

Add: Hormel products began appearing in national magazines such as Good Housekeeping as early as 1916.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 00:49, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 24, #3
Hello, I would like to suggest new source. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: That same year Hormel bought Alderson's Mill and began selling Hormel Peerless Minnesota flour nationwide.[11]:85

Add:  In 1917, Hormel bought Alderson's Mill and began selling Hormel Peerless Minnesota flour nationwide.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:01, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your ongoing patience. Is it possible to add it as a source but have it not be the only source for this statement? Thank you.Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:09, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 29, #1
Hello, I would like to a new independent source. Thanks.

Suggested new info:

Delete: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement.

Add: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:48, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

✅  spintendo   00:25, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 30, #1
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: Not-So-Sloppy-Joe Sloppy Joe sauce made its debut in 1985.[4]:183

Add:  Not-So-Sloppy-Joe Sloppy Joe sauce made its debut in 1985.

request edit August 30, #2
Hello, I would like to suggest a new source. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: Little Sizzlers sausages were introduced in 1961[14]:119 and Cure 81 hams were introduced in 1963.[14]:118

Add:  Little Sizzlers sausages were introduced in 1961 and Cure 81 hams were introduced in 1963.

August 30, #3
Hello, I would like to suggest new independent sources. Thank you.

Suggested new info: Delete: In 1926. the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, America's first canned ham and it added chicken to its line in 1928.[11]:116–120

Add:  In 1926, the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, America's first canned ham.

A chicken line debuted in 1928.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 13:19, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 30, #4
Hello, I would like to suggest new source on the trademark for this product.

When I go to USPTO and search US trademark 1417607, it shows the trademark was filed in 1985 and cancelled May 24, 1993. Did you possibly need to refresh and search, perhaps, to see this information?

Serial Number 73564245 Filing Date October 21, 1985 Current Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Published for Opposition August 26, 1986 Registration Number 1417607 Registration Date November 18, 1986 Owner (REGISTRANT) GEO. A. HORMEL & COMPANY CORPORATION DELAWARE 501 - 16TH AVENUE N.E. AUSTIN MINNESOTA 55912 Attorney of Record WILLIAM O. MCCORMACK Prior Registrations 1013611;1032240;1032440;1114612;1228643;1290346;AND OTHERS Description of Mark THE MARK USED IS COMPRISED OF A FANCIFUL DESIGN AND THE WORDS "HORMEL" AND "NOT-SO-SLOPPY-JOE". THE LINING IN THE MARK IS A FEATURE THEREOF AND DOES NOT INDICATE COLOR. Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator DEAD Cancellation Date May 24, 1993

Also, US trademark 1464772 was filed in 1987 and remains live.

A later US trademark 2187713 was filed in 1997 and cancelled May 16, 2009.

Thank you.

Suggested new info:

Delete: Not-So-Sloppy-Joe Sloppy Joe sauce made its debut in 1985.[4]:183

Add:  Not-So-Sloppy-Joe Sloppy Joe sauce made its debut in 1985.

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:t2drim.2.37 Hello-Mary-H (talk) 17:47, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 30, #5
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: Hormel joined the World War I effort, George's son Jay C. went into military service[11]:84 and by the end of the war, exports accounted for 33% of the company's yearly volume.[14]:40

Add: Hormel joined the World War I effort in 1917, when George's son Jay C. went into military service. By the end of the war, exports accounted for 33% of the company's yearly volume.[14]:40 Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:56, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 30, #7
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: In 1921, when Jay Hormel returned from service in WWI, he uncovered that assistant controller Cy Thomson had embezzled $1,187,000 from the company over the previous ten years.

Add: In 1921, when Jay Hormel returned from service in WWI, he uncovered that assistant controller Cy Thomson had embezzled $1,187,000 from the company over the previous ten years. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:32, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 30, #8
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: He did so by arranging for more reliable capital management, by dismissing unproductive employees, and by continuing to develop new products,[14]:90–103 reportedly with the mantra “Originate, don't imitate."[15]

Add: He did so by arranging for more reliable capital management and by dismissing unproductive employees. The company continued to develop new products,[14]:90–103 reportedly with the mantra “Originate, don't imitate."[15]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:07, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 30, #9
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: Dinty Moore beef stew was introduced in 1935 first created by Ryen "Gunns" Gunning and Hormel Chili and Spam soon followed in 1936 and 1937 respectively.[11]:158–159

Add: Dinty Moore beef stew was introduced in 1935, and was first created by Ryen "Gunns" Gunning. Hormel Chili followed in 1936.[11]:158–159 Spam came to the market in 1937.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:14, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 30, #10
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: Jay C. then became chairman of the board, H.H. Corey became president, and R.F. Gray became vice-president. [11]:222–223

Add: Jay C. then became chairman of the board, H.H. Corey became president, and R.F. Gray became vice-president.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:11, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 30, #11
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: In 1931, Jay C. instituted the Annual Wage Plan: under this plan, employees were paid weekly and they were guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment.[11]:67

Add: In 1929, the company began implementing its Annual Wage Plan for employees to be paid weekly the same weekly wages, even when their work schedule waxed and waned over the 52 weeks of a year. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:07, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 31, #1
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: In 1938, Jay C. Hormel introduced the "Joint Savings Plan" which allowed employees to share in the proceeds of the company.[11]:150–153

Add: In 1938, Hormel introduced the "Joint Savings Plan" which allowed employees to share in the proceeds of the company. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 12:00, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit August 31, #2
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: Benjamin F. Hormel, brother of George A., retired in 1941 after completing 50 years of service.[11]:167

Add: Benjamin F. Hormel, brother of George A., retired in 1941 after completing 50 years of service. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 12:13, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 2, #1
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: Hormel joined the World War I effort, George's son Jay C. went into military service[11]:84 and by the end of the war, exports accounted for 33% of the company's yearly volume.[14]:40

Add: Hormel joined the World War I effort in 1917, when George's son Jay C. went into military service. By the end of the war, exports accounted for 33% of the company's yearly volume.[14]:40

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 13:00, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit Sept 2, #2
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source with the relevant page number where the information can be found. Thank you.

Delete: In 1921, when Jay Hormel returned from service in WWI, he uncovered that assistant controller Cy Thomson had embezzled $1,187,000 from the company over the previous ten years.

Add: In 1921, when Jay Hormel returned from service in WWI, he uncovered that assistant controller Cy Thomson had embezzled $1,187,000 from the company over the previous ten years.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 13:17, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

 spintendo   15:24, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Request edit

 * request edit September 5, #1

Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: Hormel joined the World War I effort, George's son Jay C. went into military service[11]:84 and by the end of the war, exports accounted for 33% of the company's yearly volume.[14]:40

Add: In 1917, George's son Jay C. went to World War I, where he served as a lieutenant.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:50, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * request edit September 5, #2

Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: In 1938, Jay C. Hormel introduced the "Joint Savings Plan" which allowed employees to share in the proceeds of the company.[11]:150–153

Add: In 1939, Hormel’s Joint Savings Plan allowed employees to share in the proceeds of the company.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:02, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * request edit September 5, #3

Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: In 1931, Jay C. instituted the Annual Wage Plan: under this plan, employees were paid weekly and they were guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment.[11]:67

Add: In 1929, the company began implementing its Annual Wage Plan for employees to be paid the same weekly wages, even when their hourly work schedule would change over the 52 weeks of a year, when the season was slower.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:07, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * request edit September 3, #4

Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: Dinty Moore beef stew was introduced in 1935 first created by Ryen "Gunns" Gunning and Hormel Chili and Spam soon followed in 1936 and 1937 respectively.[11]:158–159

Add: Dinty Moore beef stew was introduced in 1935.

Hormel Chili followed in 1936. Spam came to the market in 1937.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * request edit September 6, #1

Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: He did so by arranging for more reliable capital management, by dismissing unproductive employees, and by continuing to develop new products,[14]:90–103 reportedly with the mantra “Originate, don't imitate."[15]

Add: He did so by arranging for more reliable capital management and by dismissing unproductive employees. The company continued to develop new products,[14]:90–103 reportedly with the mantra “Originate, don't imitate."[15]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 12:28, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


 * request edit September 6, #2

Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: In 1921, when Jay Hormel returned from service in WWI, he uncovered that assistant controller Cy Thomson had embezzled $1,187,000 from the company over the previous ten years.

Add: In 1921, when Jay Hormel returned from service in WWI, he uncovered that assistant controller Cy Thomson had embezzled $1,187,000 from the company.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 12:39, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


 * request edit September 6, #3

Hello, can we reconsider and use this trademark as a source given the way trademarks on Wikipedia are explained here – ? It seems to show that the U.S. government would only allow Hormel to use this trademark (and Hormel is the first and only ones to do so, given the dates attached to the trademark paperwork) – and that the usage is protected by law.

Wikipedia Getting a trademark Trademarks are protected by law. In some countries, a person or company can get a trademark simply by using the name, word, phrase, symbol, logo, design, or picture on its products. Trademarks can also be registered. In that case, the business tells the government of its country that it wants to use a certain name, word, phrase, symbol, logo, design or picture as a trademark for the products it sells. If no other person or business is using the trademark to sell those products, then the government will list that trademark. Once it is listed, no one else can use that trademark for those products. This is called "registering" the trademark.

When I go to USPTO and search US trademark 1417607, it shows the trademark was filed in 1985 and cancelled May 24, 1993.

Serial Number 73564245 Filing Date October 21, 1985 Current Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Published for Opposition August 26, 1986 Registration Number 1417607 Registration Date November 18, 1986 Owner (REGISTRANT) GEO. A. HORMEL & COMPANY CORPORATION DELAWARE 501 - 16TH AVENUE N.E. AUSTIN MINNESOTA 55912 Attorney of Record WILLIAM O. MCCORMACK Prior Registrations 1013611;1032240;1032440;1114612;1228643;1290346;AND OTHERS Description of Mark THE MARK USED IS COMPRISED OF A FANCIFUL DESIGN AND THE WORDS "HORMEL" AND "NOT-SO-SLOPPY-JOE". THE LINING IN THE MARK IS A FEATURE THEREOF AND DOES NOT INDICATE COLOR. Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator DEAD Cancellation Date May 24, 1993

Thank you.

Suggested new info:

Delete: Not-So-Sloppy-Joe Sloppy Joe sauce made its debut in 1985.[4]:183

Add:  Not-So-Sloppy-Joe Sloppy Joe sauce made its debut in 1985.

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:t2drim.2.37 Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:54, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


 * request edit September 6, #4

Hello, I would like to suggest a new source. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: In 1926. the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, America's first canned ham and it added chicken to its line in 1928.[11]:116–120

Add:  In 1926, the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, America's first canned ham and a chicken line debuted in 1928.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:47, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


 * request edit September 6, #5

Hello, I would like to suggest a new source. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[11]:233–234

Add:  Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947. and added more than 500 production workers.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:52, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Edit request Sept 7 #1
Hi there,

Is each trademark or patent considered a Hormel source then? Seems so, just want to confirm.

Thanks. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:27, 7 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, if the claim uses information submitted by the company in support of their trademark application, I would consider that to be a company-related source. If the claim were about the fact that the company was granted a trademark for a product, the granting of that trademark is an independent act decided upon by the US govt, and any reporting on that trademark being granted would be considered an independent source. The dual nature of the trade mark application process, whereby the company submits paperwork to the govt, who then reviews it and makes a decision about it, means that whatever is being communicated in the claim (a product's usage date versus the trademark's granted date) could either be an independent source or a company related source.   spintendo   05:57, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 7, #2
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: Hormel joined the World War I effort, George's son Jay C. went into military service[11]:84 and by the end of the war, exports accounted for 33% of the company's yearly volume.[14]:40

Add: In 1917, George's son Jay C. went to World War I, where he served as a lieutenant.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:34, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

 spintendo   05:57, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Request edit #1
Hello, I would like to suggest a new source. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: Not-So-Sloppy-Joe Sloppy Joe sauce made its debut in 1985.[32]

Add: Not-So-Sloppy-Joe Sloppy Joe sauce made its debut in 1985.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 00:36, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 11, #2
Hello, I would like to update the sources since it looks like one of the old sources (Richard Dougherty book) is still there. Maybe a mistake from the Sept 6 request? Thank you.

Suggested new info: Delete: In 1926. the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, America's first canned ham and it added chicken to its line in 1928.[11]:116–120

Add:  In 1926, the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, America's first canned ham and a chicken line debuted in 1928.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 01:02, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 13-SEP-2018

 * 1) ❌ The Akron Beacon Journal ad regarding Not-So-Sloppy-Joe-Sauce would not be in a position to definitively state whether 1985 was the debut of the sauce, or if it were, it would be a company related source and not an independent one.
 * 2) ❌ The Dougherty book reference still being in the sentence is no mistake: the earlier request was declined. The original request asked to add one full sentence and one partial sentence: "In 1926, the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, America's first canned ham.[1] A chicken line debuted in 1928.[2]" The first sentence was too closely worded to the source material, and the second sentence, "a chicken line debuted in 1928" was felt to be too short and a bit confusing, because the product mentioned immediately before it—the canned ham—is not referred to as a "line". "Chicken line" is not used anywhere near this sentence, so this begs the question of what "a chicken line" is. The current configuration of this sentence does not eliminate this confusion ("In 1926, the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, America's first canned ham and a chicken line debuted in 1928."—also a run-on sentence).   spintendo   07:14, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 14, #1
Hello, I would like to update the source and text. Thank you. Suggested new info: Suggested new info:

Delete: In 1926. the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, America's first canned ham and it added chicken to its line in 1928.[11]:116–120

Add:  In 1926, the company introduced Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham, the world’s first canned ham, and added a canned chicken product line in 1928.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:00, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. Does that mean the number of individual sources closely related to Hormel drops from 17 to 16?

request edit September 14, #2
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. I can’t find further documentation on Ryen “Gunns” Gunning and Dinty Moore. Thank you.

Delete: Dinty Moore beef stew was introduced in 1935 first created by Ryen "Gunns" Gunning and Hormel Chili and Spam soon followed in 1936 and 1937 respectively.[11]:158–159

Add: Dinty Moore beef stew was introduced in 1935.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:33, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 11, #1
Hello, I would like to update info on Dairy Brand. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: The name Dairy Brand was registered with the U.S. Patent Office in 1903.[12]

Add: The name Dairy Brand was first used in 1903.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:05, 11 September 2018 (UTC)


 * I updated the text. The patent was actually registered in 1926. Kemples (talk) 21:06, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The sentence proposed by the COI editor is not clear in its wording ("first used" meaning used as a food item or a registered trademark?)
 * The reference left in place for this statement by is the correct one to use, as it covers both claims in the sentence: the date of first use and the date of registration. The reference suggested for use by the COI editor would not have accomplished both of these requirements.
 * A "Thank you" to Kemples for correcting the dates used by this sentence in the article and for adding text which explains the differences of "first use".   spintendo   07:34, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you and  for the correction and updates. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:06, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Happy to help Kemples (talk) 12:28, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 17, #1
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. I can’t find documentation that Ryen “Gunns” Gunning was in any way attached to Dinty Moore. Thank you.

Delete: Dinty Moore beef stew was introduced in 1935 first created by Ryen "Gunns" Gunning and Hormel Chili and Spam soon followed in 1936 and 1937 respectively.[11]:158–159

Add: Dinty Moore began as a New-York based character in a 1913 syndicated Hearst-owned popular newspaper comic strip by George McManus. In the comic, Dinty Moore served hearty Irish dishes at his tavern. The Dinty Moore canned food line concept was bought and registered for U.S. trademark by Hormel in 1935.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:01, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 13-SEP-2018

 * 1) ❌ The author Philip Potempa is an author and a chef and isn't a journalist or historian, so I'm not inclined to accept his "Answer of reader's letters" column.
 * 2) ✅ I removed the ref note regarding Dinty Moore since you said that you couldn't find anything which confirmed its claims, which ostensibly included the very reference which accompanied it. Without that note the claim was unreferenced, thus the claim was also removed.   spintendo   09:09, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 17, #2
Hello, I would like to update the sources. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Suggested new info: Delete: Jay C. Hormel died on August 30, 1954, and Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president the following year.[11]:255–257

Add: Jay C. Hormel died in 1954. The next year, Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:21, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 18-SEP-2018

 * This claim would add to the article's already-overused descriptions of shuffling of executives in the top positions, particularly with the paragraph just preceding it. I would suggest merging these statements so that the section does not become a listing of comings and goings.  spintendo   09:09, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 18, #1
Hello, I would like to suggest new wording attached regarding Dinty Moore. Philip M. Potempa started his journalism career in 1992 and is "a newspaper journalist who writes about entertainment, theater and celebrities in a newspaper column and stories which began being published in his flagship newspaper The Post-Tribune and The Chicago Tribune Media Co. in 2016. Previously, from 1995 to 2015, his columns and feature stories were published in The Times of Northwest Indiana and Illinois, in addition to his writing also being syndicated and shared with the more than 50 other newspapers in the Lee Media Enterprises newspaper chain, which includes The St. Louis Post-Dispatch and other newspapers in their recently acquired Pulitzer Newspapers chain." More info at https://www.valpo.edu/communication/about/faculty-and-staff/philip-potempa/ and https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3023452/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm Thank you.

Add: Dinty Moore began as a New-York based character in a 1913 syndicated Hearst-owned popular newspaper comic strip by George McManus. In the comic, Dinty Moore served hearty Irish dishes at his tavern. The Dinty Moore canned food line concept was bought and registered for U.S. trademark by Hormel in 1935.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:06, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 18-SEP-2018
Dear Abby was a syndicated column run by Pauline Phillips under Universal Press Syndicate wherein 1987 she had a daily reach of over 1200 newspapers across the country running in such esteemed venues as the Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Sun-Times — a reach more than 20x's larger than that of Mr. Potempa. Nevertheless, I don't believe she would be considered a reliable source. I'm almost certain that wherever Mr. Potempa discovered his sources for his column can be located and reassembled here to offer a more secure reference for these three claims than Mr. Potempa's word alone. spintendo   00:01, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 18, #2
Hello, I would like to update the wording and sources. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Suggested new info:

Delete: After reaching sales of $75 million in 1941, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to provide perpetual independence of the company, act as trustees of the family trusts and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota.[11]:301–304 Benjamin F. Hormel, brother of George A., retired in 1941 after completing 50 years of service.[23] Hormel's production increased to aid in World War II and 65% of its products were purchased by the U.S. government by 1945.[11]:77–78 Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement.[24] He is buried in Austin's Oakwood Cemetery. Jay C. then became chairman of the board, H.H. Corey became president, and R.F. Gray became vice-president.[25] Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[26]

Jay C. Hormel died on August 30, 1954, and Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president the following year.[11]:255–257 During Gray's tenure as president, the company greatly expanded its international business through arrangements with companies in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Societyfor its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[11]:270

Add: After reaching sales of $75 million in 1941, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to provide perpetual independence of the company, act as trustees of the family trusts and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota.[11]:301–304 Benjamin F. Hormel, brother of George A., retired in 1941 after completing 50 years of service.[23] Hormel's production increased to aid in World War II and 65% of its products were purchased by the U.S. government by 1945.[11]:77–78

Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement[24] and is buried in Austin's Oakwood Cemetery. Jay C. became chairman of the board and H.H. Corey became president.[25] Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[26] Jay C. Hormel died in 1954. The next year, Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president. During Gray's tenure, the company greatly expanded its international business through arrangements with companies in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:28, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 18-SEP-2018
The request mixes new links with older ones which are not connected on the talk page (shown with the use of bracketed note numbers, i.e., [15], etc, and highlighted in yellow). Please reformulate your request with references which make use of Citation Style 1, the style predominantly used by the article.  spintendo   00:01, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit Sept 18, #3
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: After reaching sales of $75 million in 1941, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to provide perpetual independence of the company, act as trustees of the family trusts and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota.[11]:301–304

Add: After reaching sales of $75 million in 1941, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to provide perpetual independence of the company, act as trustees of the family trusts and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:56, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 18-SEP-2018
The URL's for one of the references in this section is incorrect, as both URL's for reference numbers 1 and 2 link to the same item.  spintendo   00:01, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 18, #4
Hello, the stories and columns by writer Philip M. Potempa have been used for WP sources at least 15 times on 14 different Wikipedia pages. More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=phillip+potempa&title=Special:Search&go=Go&searchToken=58r1zlb303uqm595zaxi1s0qo

I would like to suggest new wording attached to Dinty Moore. Thank you.

Add: Dinty Moore began as a New-York based character in a 1913 syndicated Hearst-owned popular newspaper comic strip by George McManus. In the comic, Dinty Moore served hearty Irish dishes at his tavern. The Dinty Moore canned food line concept was bought and registered for U.S. trademark by Hormel in 1935.

This is a columnist who is experienced in writing about—as you yourself put it—entertainment, theater and celebrities. Now I'm at a loss trying to figure out which of these canned food falls under. Perhaps you could clarify. Other than that, your argument is essentially WP:OSE.  spintendo   01:42, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 19, #1
Hello, I would like to suggest new wording attached to Dinty Moore. Note I can't figure out how to change the "add" text so that there are not blocks of italicized text. Thank you.

Add: Dinty Moore began as a New-York based character in a 1913 daily syndicated popular 'Bringing Up Father'' newspaper comic strip by George McManus. In the comic, Dinty Moore served hearty dishes at his tavern. McManus in real life frequented a restaurant owned by his friend James Moore that served dishes like Irish stew and corned beef and cabbage and Moore eventually changed the restaurant’s name to Dinty Moore. Other Dinty Moore locations opened nationally, and a Dinty Moore Picnics product was sold under a registered name by a Minneapolis retail store.

The Dinty Moore trademark was bought by Hormel in 1935, and the company began selling its steamed beef and gravy canned Dinty Moore product. {{cite web |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/14/nyregion/fyi-638820.html|title=FYI A column of questions and answers about New York City.|author=<!—Daniel B. Schneider-->|date=14 Oct 2001|website= nytimes.com|publisher=New York Times |access-date=19 September 2018 |{{Quote Q. When I was kid I loved Dinty Moore beef stew. Recently I learned that Dinty Moore's was for many years a popular New York restaurant. Who was Dinty Moore, and was he, in fact, the man behind the stew? A. In 1913, George McManus, a cartoonist for The New York American, created a comic strip called Bringing Up Father, which satirized the struggles of Jiggs and Maggie, a working-class Irish couple thrust by sudden wealth into the world of New York's pampered elite. Jiggs, who longs for his previous life, returns often to the tavern owned by his old pal, Dinty Moore. Bringing Up Father was an instant and enduring hit. It became a daily feature in 1916. George McManus sometimes visited James Moore's Irish-style restaurant at 216 West 46th Street. Convinced that he was the inspiration for the Dinty Moore of comic strip fame, Mr. Moore took the name for his restaurant, which became a popular Midtown hangout for sports heroes, celebrities and swells. Corned beef and cabbage was a specialty, of course. So was Irish stew. Other Dinty Moore's were opened in cities around the country. In the 1930's, a meat retailer in Minneapolis registered the Dinty Moore name and sold a cured meat product called Dinty Moore Picnics. Hormel Foods bought the name and marketed its own steamed-beef-and-gravy product, at 15 cents a can, starting in 1935. The stew was renowned for its long shelf life. Later Hormel introduced a short-lived Dinty Moore character, a cartoon lumberjack, to help sell the product, which remains popular. The restaurant on 46th Street, with its polished brass and mahogany bar, was considered a virtual landmark when it closed in the early 1970's.}}{{subscription required|s}}
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Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:53, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

{{quote box|width=50%|align=left|1={{color box|#f7e9b8|Reply 19-SEP-2018}} The URL to the Times here is non functional. Do you have another one?  spintendo   01:54, 20 September 2018 (UTC)}}{{clear}}