Talk:Hormel Foods/Archive 4

request edit Sept 19, #2
Hello, I would like to suggest new independent sources. Thank you.

Delete: After reaching sales of $75 million in 1941, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to provide perpetual independence of the company, act as trustees of the family trusts and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota.[11]:301–304

Add: After reaching sales of $75 million in 1941, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to provide perpetual independence of the company, act as trustees of the family trusts and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:52, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 20, #1
Hello, I think yesterday I had a spacing “|” near the link, so hope the same url works now. I would like to suggest new wording attached to Dinty Moore. Thank you.

Add: Dinty Moore began as a New-York based character in a 1913 daily syndicated popular 'Bringing Up Father'' newspaper comic strip by George McManus. In the comic, Dinty Moore served hearty dishes at his tavern. McManus in real life frequented a restaurant owned by his friend James Moore that served dishes like Irish stew and corned beef and cabbage and Moore eventually changed the restaurant’s name to Dinty Moore. Other Dinty Moore locations opened nationally, and a Dinty Moore Picnics product was sold under a registered name by a Minneapolis retail store.

The Dinty Moore trademark was bought by Hormel in 1935, and the company began selling its steamed beef and gravy canned Dinty Moore product. {{cite web |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/14/nyregion/fyi-638820.html |title=FYI A column of questions and answers about New York City.|author=<!—Daniel B. Schneider-->|date=14 Oct 2001|website=nytimes.com|publisher=New York Times |access-date=19 September 2018||{{Quote|text=Stew From the Funnies

Q. When I was kid I loved Dinty Moore beef stew. Recently I learned that Dinty Moore's was for many years a popular New York restaurant. Who was Dinty Moore, and was he, in fact, the man behind the stew? A. In 1913, George McManus, a cartoonist for The New York American, created a comic strip called Bringing Up Father, which satirized the struggles of Jiggs and Maggie, a working-class Irish couple thrust by sudden wealth into the world of New York's pampered elite. Jiggs, who longs for his previous life, returns often to the tavern owned by his old pal, Dinty Moore. Bringing Up Father was an instant and enduring hit. It became a daily feature in 1916. George McManus sometimes visited James Moore's Irish-style restaurant at 216 West 46th Street. Convinced that he was the inspiration for the Dinty Moore of comic strip fame, Mr. Moore took the name for his restaurant, which became a popular Midtown hangout for sports heroes, celebrities and swells. Corned beef and cabbage was a specialty, of course. So was Irish stew. Other Dinty Moore's were opened in cities around the country.

In the 1930's, a meat retailer in Minneapolis registered the Dinty Moore name and sold a cured meat product called Dinty Moore Picnics. Hormel Foods bought the name and marketed its own steamed-beef-and-gravy product, at 15 cents a can, starting in 1935. The stew was renowned for its long shelf life. Later Hormel introduced a short-lived Dinty Moore character, a cartoon lumberjack, to help sell the product, which remains popular. The restaurant on 46th Street, with its polished brass and mahogany bar, was considered a virtual landmark when it closed in the early 1970's.}}{{subscription required|s}}

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2018 (UTC) {{reflist-talk}}

{{quote box|width=60%|align=left|1={{color box|#f7e9b8|Reply 21-SEP-2018}} Mary how about for this one we do a direct quote, I think that would work nicely. Something like According to the New York Times, "Hormel Foods bought the name Dinty Moore" sometime in the 1930s and "marketed its own steamed-beef-and-gravy product, at 15 cents a can, starting in 1935." Let me know if that works for you by changing the template to read ans=no. Thanks!  spintendo   19:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)}}{{clear}}

request edit September 21, #1
Hello, I think this item somehow did not make it to the main WP page. I would like to suggest another new independent source and different wording. Thank you.

Delete: In 1931, Jay C. instituted the Annual Wage Plan: under this plan, employees were paid weekly and they were guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment.[11]:67

Add: In 1929, the company began implementing its Annual Wage Plan for employees to be paid the same weekly wages, even when their hourly work schedule would change depending on slow or busy the livestock season was.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:02, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit Sept 20, #2
Hello, I would like to suggest a new independent source. Thank you.

Delete: After reaching sales of $75 million in 1941, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to provide perpetual independence of the company, act as trustees of the family trusts and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota.[11]:301–304

Add: By 1942, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to act as trustees of the family trusts , and to start and fund The Hormel Institute, a research unit at the University of Minnesota.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:59, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

That works, good idea. Only thing is, the Institute also started in 1942, so perhaps could we go with something like: ''By 1942, George and Jay established The Hormel Foundation to act as trustees of the family trusts. The Foundation funded the Hormel Institute at the University of Minnesota, and the Institute was initially started with a study of the food value of soybeans. The Institute's scope later grew towards studying nutrition, animal diseases and food technology." Thank you! (talk) Hello-Mary-H (talk) 20:30, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Hoping this link works better. Thanks! : https://books.google.com/books?id=gSFWDwAAQBAJ&lpg=PT85&dq=The%20Hormel%20Foundation%20is%20a%20Minnesota%20foundation%20established%20to%20retain%20control%20of%20the%20Hormel%20Company.%20The%20founders%20of%20the%20company%20were%20concerned%20that%20after%20their%20deaths%20the%20company%20would%20be%20swallowed%20up%20by%20industry%20giants%2C%20so%20gave%20controlling%20interest%20in%20the%20firm%20to%20the%20foundation.%20The%20foundation%20trustees%20are%20required%20to%20have%20chief%20financial%20interests%20in%20the%20company%2C%20in%20an%20attempt%20to%20ensure%20that%20the%20company%20would%20not%20be%20taken%20over&pg=PT85#v=onepage&q=The%20Hormel%20Foundation%20is%20a%20Minnesota%20foundation%20established%20to%20retain%20control%20of%20the%20Hormel%20Company.%20The%20founders%20of%20the%20company%20were%20concerned%20that%20after%20their%20deaths%20the%20company%20would%20be%20swallowed%20up%20by%20industry%20giants,%20so%20gave%20controlling%20interest%20in%20the%20firm%20to%20the%20foundation.%20The%20foundation%20trustees%20are%20required%20to%20have%20chief%20financial%20interests%20in%20the%20company,%20in%20an%20attempt%20to%20ensure%20that%20the%20company%20would%20not%20be%20taken%20over&f=false Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:37, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

✅  Spintendo   20:53, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 22, #1
Hello, I would like to suggest another new independent source and different wording. I am not sure which date to use, since the sources cite different dates (1929, 1931, 1933). What would you recommend. Perhaps “By 1933”? Thank you.

Delete: In 1931, Jay C. instituted the Annual Wage Plan: under this plan, employees were paid weekly and they were guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment.[11]:67

Add: By 1933, Jay C. implemented the Annual Wage Plan for employees to be paid weekly, with a guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment. The plan meant that employees were paid weekly at the same base rate for an entire year, even if the work schedule called for a variance in hours during the company’s slower and busier livestock periods.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 17:05, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 24, #1
Hello, I would like to suggest another new independent source and different wording. I am not sure which date to use, since the sources cite different dates (1929, 1931, 1933). What would you recommend? Perhaps “By 1933”? Thank you.

Delete: In 1931, Jay C. instituted the Annual Wage Plan: under this plan, employees were paid weekly and they were guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment.[11]:67

Add: By 1933, Jay C. implemented the Annual Wage Plan for employees to be paid weekly, with a guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment. The plan meant that employees were paid weekly at the same base rate for an entire year, even if the work schedule called for a variance in hours during the company’s slower and busier livestock periods. Thank you.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:45, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 25-SEP-2018

 * 1) I'm comfortable having the claim about 52 weeks before termination (which is already in the article) but I still dont understand how that affects pay or the quotas. In the end this is a lot of information being asked on a magazine article more than 70 years old, with quotas and guaranteed pay, and base rates and still no explanation for how long the entire thing lasted for. The reference from 1962 is better than the magazine article, but it says the same thing Daugherty is saying, meanwhile its URL still connects to the 70 year old magazine article.  Spintendo   11:58, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 24, #2
Hello, I would like to update info on Dairy Brand and remove the patent office as a source but instead use the older Dougherty source. I did not realize that the patents counted as new sources affiliated with Hormel, would rather lower that count if possible. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: The name Dairy Brand was first used in 1903, and registered with the U.S. Patent Office in 1926. .[12]

Add: The name Dairy Brand was first used in 1903, and registered with the U.S. Patent Office in 1926.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 25-SEP-2018
 Spintendo   11:58, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 26, #1
Hello, for some reason, the text about the wage plan is not currently in the article. Perhaps we can together fix that? I think the original book source was Lund, not Dougherty. The 52 weeks notice is sometimes mentioned as a part of the wage plan, but not in all sources. Jay C’s wage plan was in place through at least 1941.

I would like to suggest other new independent sources and different wording. Thank you.

Old text (from earlier in 2018): In 1931, Jay C. instituted the Annual Wage Plan: under this plan, employees were paid weekly and they were guaranteed 52 weeks' notice before termination of employment.[11]:67

Add: By 1933, Jay C. implemented the Annual Wage Plan for employees to be paid weekly at the same base rate for an entire year, even during the company’s slower and busier livestock periods.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:44, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 26-SEP-2018
The annual wage plan mentioned in the Life source talks about production schedules and discusses extra pay and profit sharing. The source also mentions a union provision where no worker could be fired without 52 weeks notice except in cases of personal misconduct (misconduct as something decided upon by the company and no outside mediator, as may be done today, for example). The bottom line with these claims is that they are not fully explained in circumstances of how long they lasted as provisions or directives, whether they made any major differences in worker output (as described by other sources) or whether or not these are merely different variations of several hundred different job provisions and wage sharing plans offered by the company in its many years of existence. I believe that mentioning them here based on sources which are 50+ years old would not WP:WEIGHT the article properly, and might give undue prominence to facts which don't necessarily reflect their importance given in a wide section of references beyond the primary sources you've already provided. Just because something is verifiably sourced does not always mean it's appropriate for inclusion, as a balance between the different elements must ultimately be achieved (See WP:BALASP). That being said, if there is anything which is outright false in the article now, please let me know and I'll remove it.  Spintendo   21:21, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit Sept 26, #2
Hello, I would like to update the wording and sources using the article's citation template. Thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement.[25] He is buried in Austin's Oakwood Cemetery. Jay C. then became chairman of the board, H.H. Corey became president, and R.F. Gray became vice-president.[26] Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[27] Jay C. Hormel died on 30 August 1954, and Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president the following year.[11]:255–257 During Gray's tenure as president, the company greatly expanded its international business through arrangements with companies in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[11]:270

Add: After founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California, where he had lived in retirement, he was buried in Austin.

Jay C. became chairman of the board and H.H. Corey became president. Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.

Jay C. Hormel died in 1954. The next year, Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president. During Gray's tenure, the company greatly expanded its international business through arrangements with companies in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:11, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply SEP-26-2018
In requests for deletion, please include the wiki-formatted text of the references which are to be deleted as well, not just their bracketed note numbers (i.e., [2], etc.) in the verbatim descriptions of the deleted text. Please ensure that if the reference is an abbreviated version (e.g.,  ) that the full version of the note be included so that it displays in the reflist-talk section. To display references on the talk page, please use with no heading, instead of adding an entire references section under the level 2 heading. The only level 2 heading should be for the title "edit request date___ " immediately before the   template. The best place to put is immediately after your signature, as the reference box generated by it will act as a natural boundary to the next entered post in the conversational thread. Thank you!  Spintendo   21:24, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 26, #3
Hello, do I use ref tags for the sources in the deleted section? I would like to update the wording and sources and hope I am formatting the deleted references properly – thanks for your help and patience.

Suggested new info:

Delete: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement.[25]. He is buried in Austin's Oakwood Cemetery. Jay C. then became chairman of the board, H.H. Corey became president, and R.F. Gray became vice-president.[26]   Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[27] Jay C. Hormel died on 30 August 1954, and Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president the following year.[11]:255–257

During Gray's tenure as president, the company greatly expanded its international business through arrangements with companies in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[11]:270 Add: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement and was buried in Austin.

Jay C. became chairman of the board and H.H. Corey became president. Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.

Jay C. Hormel died in 1954. The next year, Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president. During Gray's tenure, the company greatly expanded its international business in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:12, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 26, #3
Hopefully you can help me delete the extra request or tell me how to do it since I appear to have inadvertently saved the same new section or comment twice.

Hello, do I use ref tags for the sources in the deleted section? I would like to update the wording and sources and hope I am formatting the deleted references properly – thanks for your help and patience.

Suggested new info:

Delete: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement.[25]. He is buried in Austin's Oakwood Cemetery. Jay C. then became chairman of the board, H.H. Corey became president, and R.F. Gray became vice-president.[26]   Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.[27] Jay C. Hormel died on 30 August 1954, and Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president the following year.[11]:255–257

During Gray's tenure as president, the company greatly expanded its international business through arrangements with companies in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[11]:270 < Add: Founder George A. Hormel died in 1946 in California where he had lived in retirement and was buried in Austin.

Jay C. became chairman of the board and H.H. Corey became president. Hormel acquired the Fremont Packing Company in 1947.

Jay C. Hormel died in 1954. The next year, Corey was named chairman of the board and R.F. Gray was elected president. During Gray's tenure, the company greatly expanded its international business in Ireland, The UK, Canada and Venezuela. In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 23:14, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 26-SEP-2018
 Spintendo   05:13, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) ❌ The Founders death and the executive reshuffle between Jay C. and HH was already implemented.
 * 2) ✅ The death of Jay C. and the executive reshuffle between Corey and Grey was given the new references.
 * 3) ❌ The information regarding the expansion during Grey's tenure could not be added because it is not referenced.
 * 4) ❌ The Freemont packing company could not be added because the page is not given.
 * 5) ❌ The claim regarding anesthetizing could not be given the new reference because it is not formatted correctly.

request edit September 27, #1
Hello, I would like to update the source – thank you. Suggested new info:

Delete: In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter.[11]:270

Add: In 1959, Hormel was the first meatpacker to receive the Seal of Approval of the American Humane Society for its practice of anesthetizing animals before slaughter. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 15:27, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 27, #2
Hello, I would like to possibly shorten the wording for Jay C.’s death by removing the month and date. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: Jay C. Hormel died on 30 August 1954.[28]

Add: Jay C. Hormel died in 1954. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC) ✅  Spintendo   18:29, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 27, #3
Hello, I would like to update the source to a non-Hormel one for the “Key people” side bar listing James Snee as Chairman, President, CEO. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: Key people James Snee (Chairman, President, CEO)[1]

Add: Key people James Snee (Chairman, President, CEO) Hello-Mary-H (talk) 18:48, 27 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Company related sources are perfectly acceptable for these types of claims.  Spintendo   20:43, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

is it ok to replace the company source with a new one? I am hoping to lower the 16 sources that are linked directly to Hormel. This is one of them, correct? Thank you.Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:31, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

To do list question
Hi there,

How do I see which of the 18 sources are Hormel-centric in the WP to do list? Feel like I am chipping away at them but would love to check the list.

Thank you!Hello-Mary-H (talk) 00:20, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 02:02, 28 September 2018 (UTC)


 Spintendo   02:02, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 27, #4
Hello, I would like to update the sources and also make it into two sentences. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: In 2004, Jeffrey M. Ettinger succeeded Johnson as company president and introduced the Billion Dollar Challenge, setting a goal for the company to generate $1 billion in sales from new products by the end of fiscal year 2009.[1]

Add: In 2004, Jeffrey M. Ettinger succeeded Johnson. Ettinger introduced the Billion Dollar Challenge, setting a goal for the company to generate $1 billion in sales from new products by 2009. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:43, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

✅  Spintendo   04:58, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 27, #5
Hello, I would like to shorten this slightly and also update the source. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: In late 2016, Hormel sold Clougherty Packing, owner of the Farmer John and Saag's brands, to Smithfield Foods, with the sale closing in January 2017.[61]

Add: Hormel sold Clougherty Packing, owner of the Farmer John and Saag's brands, to Smithfield Foods, in 2016. Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:43, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit September 28, #1
Hello, I would like to update the source in the “Key people” side bar listing James Snee as Chairman, President, CEO. While I understand that the company source is acceptable, I have been working at lowering the 20 sources that are linked to Hormel. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: Key people James Snee (Chairman, President, CEO)[1]

Add: Key people James Snee (Chairman, President, CEO) Hello-Mary-H (talk) 15:41, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Reply 29-SEP-2018

 * The maintenance tag is not a badge of shame. It merely identifies articles where correctable issues are being worked on, which you and I have been doing to great effect. The percentage was at 54% and has now dropped to 35% — meaning in two months time $1/5$ of the reference notes linked to Hormel have been replaced by independent sources.  Spintendo   04:07, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 3, #1
Hello, I would like to update the source so that is not an industry source and more verifiable and neutral. I also shortened the text slightly. For example, the phrase “undercover” is used twice. Also updated the date, since the video was shot in 2016 but released in January 2017. Note the new source does not confirm the “piglets with no room to move trampling each other in crowded hallways” statement. Perhaps we can keep the Mercy for Animals link but add the three new sources, if you think that is best? Thank you.

Suggested new info: Delete: In January 2016, Mercy For Animals released undercover footage of pigs being abused at a Hormel pork supplier. The undercover video shows piglets having their testicles ripped out and tails cut off without any anesthetic, piglets left to suffer from untreated illness or injuries, piglets with no room to move trampling each other in crowded hallways, and mother pigs crammed into filthy gestation crates unable to move.[74]"Shocking Undercover Video Shows Piglets Mutilated And Abused At Hormel Pork Supplier". PR Newswire (Press release). 31 Jan 2017. Retrieved 31 January 2017.[note 15]

Add: In 2017, Mercy For Animals released undercover video footage of pigs being abused at a Hormel pork supplier, with piglets having their testicles ripped out and tails cut off without any anesthetic, piglets left to suffer from untreated illness or injuries, and mother pigs crammed into gestation crates unable to move.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 19:22, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 3, #2
Hello, I would like to update the source in the side bar listing Hormel Food Corporation to make the article with fewer sources that are linked to Hormel.

It looks like this reference and footnote was first requested by me in June 28, 2018: “From the introduction, please move "The company was founded as George A. Hormel & Company in Austin by George A. Hormel in 1891[8].https://www.immigrantentrepreneurship.org/entry.php?rec=130 It changed its name to Hormel Foods in 1995[9]." https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/HRL/profile/ “ Thank you.

Suggested new info:

Delete: Footnotes / references [3]

Add: Footnotes / references Hello-Mary-H (talk) 22:13, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 4, #3
Hello, I would like to update the source so that is not an industry source. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: The company has been included in Corporate Responsibility magazine's list of the "100 best corporate citizens" for 10 consecutive years.[65]

Add: The company has been included in Corporate Responsibility magazine's "100 best corporate citizens" list for 10 consecutive years.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 21:38, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 4, #1
Hello, I would like to update the source in the side bar listing the footnote so that it’s one less Hormel-centric source. It looks like this source was originally used to show the founding date as well as name change date.

Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: Footnotes / references [3]

Add: Footnotes / references Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:13, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 4, #2
Hello, wonder if we can move a paragraph from the “History” section to the “Allegations of Animal Abuse section”. Thank you.

Here is the paragraph:

In 2015, after an undercover investigation at a Minnesota processing plant, Hormel Foods announced it was bringing humane handling officers to the QPP facility to ensure compliance with its own animal welfare standards. It has also told QPP to provide extra training, enhance compliance oversight and increase third-party auditing. QPP announced plans to strengthen its video monitoring system and improve animal handling equipment.[57] Hello-Mary-H (talk) 16:31, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 5, #1
Hello, I would like to update the source so that is not an industry source. Thank you. Suggested new info: Delete: The company has been included in Corporate Responsibility magazine's list of the "100 best corporate citizens" for 10 consecutive years.[65]

Add: The company has been included in Corporate Responsibility magazine's "100 best corporate citizens" list for 10 consecutive years.

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 15:22, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

request edit October 5, #2
Hello, can we add a line break to the history text? Thank you. Suggested new info:

George A. Hormel (born 1860 in Buffalo, New York) worked in a Chicago slaughterhouse before becoming a traveling wool and hide buyer. His travels took him to Austin and he decided to settle there, borrow $500, and open a meat business.[3] Hormel handled the production side of the business and his partner, Albert Friedrich, handled the retail side. The two dissolved their partnership in 1891 so that Hormel could start a complete meat packing operation on his own.[4] He opened George A. Hormel & Co. in the northeast part of Austin in an old creamery building[5] on the Cedar River.[6]

Add: line break here.

To make ends meet in those early days, Hormel continued to trade in hides, eggs, wool, and poultry. Joining George in November 1891 was his youngest brother, Benjamin, age 14. By the end of 1891 Hormel employed six men and had slaughtered and sold 610 head of livestock. By 1893, the increased use of refrigerator cars and greater efficiency had forced smaller businesses to collapse. Two additional Hormel brothers, Herman and John, joined the business that same year, and together they processed 1,532 hogs. The remaining members of the Hormel family moved to Austin in 1895 and joined the growing business. George turned to full-time management in 1899, and focused on increasing production.[7]

Hello-Mary-H (talk) 17:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)