Talk:Horsecar/Archive 1

Disneyland horsecars
I did a little searching around this morning, and it's amazing that I couldn't find a decent picture of the Disneyland horsecars. Maybe someone near a Disney park could get a decent photo? Slambo (Speak) 11:29, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The photo at File:Disneyland-HorseDrawnStreetcar.jpg was taken at Disneyland in Anaheim, California and the photo at File:Florida 2006 001.jpg was taken at Disney World in Orlando, Florida. Between them I think the former photo does a better job of illustrating a horse streetcar since the horse is not cropped and there are people on board the vehicle, whereas the latter photo illustrates the US flag and emphasizes the Disney location a bit more prominently. I think the former photo might be the better choice for this article, but this article already has several photos. 67.86.73.252 (talk) 15:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * In addition to the photos uploaded to the en wikipedia (and not moved to commons for unknown reasons) there is now a category on commons for . 69.126.127.193 (talk) 03:11, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Globalizing
This article as it stood represented a very USA-centric viewpoint. Although much of the history originated in the USA I have expanded it to reference other European systems. I hit one definition problem with the České Budějovice - Linz horsecar line of 1828. I'm not sure whether it was, properly speaking, a horsetram, although it was a car pulled by horses - "Pferdeeisenbahn" literally translates as "horse railway". It was 120 km long and mainly ran on its own tracks, and was partly used for freight. It seems to cross several definitions. However IMHO it warrants a mention, and a better description in its own article in WP. Its well written up in the German WP here if someone would like to be bold and start it off! Ephebi (talk) 15:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Horses and carriages are a great way of transport and best of all you don't have to fill them up with fuel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.154.107 (talk) 08:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Pittsburgh or Sulphur Rock, AR?
According to this article:
 * Pittsburgh, PA had the last horsecar line in the US in regular service, where the Sarah Street line lasted until 1923.

However, according to the last horsecar ran in Sulphur Rock, Arkansas in 1926. That source also mentions that the event was commemorated with a U.S. Postage Stamp issued on October 8, 1983. Should the wording of last horsecar lines in the U.S. be rephrased? Admittedly Pittsburgh is a much larger city than Sulphur Rock. Can anyone find a reference for the Pittsburgh claim? Thanks. 67.86.73.252 (talk) 03:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Done! Ephebi (talk) 12:31, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. You have done an excellent job with the rewrite. 67.86.73.252 (talk) 13:23, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Freight application
No mention is made of horsecars as goods wagons. An oversighT? Peter Horn User talk 22:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I am not clear what has gone wrong, but something has gone seriously wrong. Some one seems to ahve assumed that there were no railways before 1820.  That may be true of USA, but in UK, they was over 200 years history of horse-drawn goods traffic on railways (called this in the Midlands, but Wagonway near Newcastle).  Horse-drawn vehicles used to be linked from there, but the link was to a section that merely contained this article, so that the substitution of a link to this one may be appropriate.  However, it might be better to ahve a separate article on the wagons used on wagonways.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:32, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * good point - though page is about public transport. I've linked the introductory paragraph to some of the historical systems, perhaps you can expand as you see fit? Ephebi (talk) 12:38, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that clouding this subject with a lot of material on coal traffic near Newcastle is not going to help this article, particualrly as they were called "wagons" not horsecars (or even cars). Perhaps we need a capnote.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Derailable horsecars
In the early period there are tramsystems where cars could leave the track. In Europe they where called tramway type "chemin de fer Americains". I suspect this was another type of rail whereby the wheel ran in rail grooves and not wheels with flanges. "The Vicinal story, Light Railways in Belgium 1885 - 1991 by W.J.K.Davies, page 224" talks of a fifth wheel used for steering.Smiley.toerist (talk) 12:21, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

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