Talk:HorsegiirL

Did reveal she is horsegiirL?
I have some questions about assuming that horsegiirL is. Where did this come from? Was it confirmed by ? Does horsegiirL want this information to be avaiable? As I've noticed that horsegiirL makes interviewers sign a "NDNeigh" as seen on this interview, I'm not sure if horsegiirL wants this to be known or even if it's the truth. Bernzrdo (talk) 16:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * An IP purporting to be her management doesn't appear to want it on here either! As far as I'm concerned, she's outed herself, as she's claimed to have written Pegasus about a chap called Cornelius, which means, according to ASCAP, that she is either, Louis Koehler, or Paul Vogler, and Koehler and Vogler are different people.-- Laun chba ller 11:25, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Many artists make the mistake of outting themselves, thinking it's private information. Giving this, shouldn't this article respect horsegiirL's wishes? Bernzrdo (talk) 16:38, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * ASCAP is subject-generated content, and Horse & Hound quotes from a press release. If it was something like a slip of the tongue on a radio interview, maybe, but this is from the subject on multiple counts. Both of the articles mentioning her NDNeigh come from late last year, by which time her real name had well and truly bolted. If you want a policy based argument, WP:BLPPUBLIC requires that such a claim requires "multiple reliable third-party sources"; the same quote also appears in Clash and WithGuitars.-- Laun chba ller 20:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

I can see no reason to mention in an article about "horsegiirL". The article does not even cite speculation that they are the same person. It is WP:SYNTH to connect the two artists in this way, and not acceptable in a BLP. —Kusma (talk) 09:28, 7 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Bernzrdo (talk) 14:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I assume you are referring to . They are obviously the same person, you can clearly tell by their matching tattoos and the fact that is credited as writing My Barn My Rules. There is no debate, horsegiirl is undoubtedly . 76.218.205.175 (talk) 20:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * And Pegasus, for which she's literally published a press release claiming to have done so, but the consensus at the DYK nomination and at Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive356 is that her name should not be in the article. I've got to say, I can't wait for it to appear in more RSes so we can include it - we're an encyclopedia, we should not be entertaining spin - and if I'd have been the article creator I'd have redirected this by now.-- Laun chba ller 20:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the information, I definitely agree with you. Is the only barrier to including her real name in this article the lack of a RS confirming her identity? Maybe someone should just reach out to a music/EDM news source and give them all the evidence, I'm sure someone would like to write an article about it. I also think that just because her manager said they don't want her name on Wikipedia doesn't mean anything, she is a famous artist and should have done a better job keeping her real name private if she really wanted to remain anonymous. I guess for now until a RS comes along we can refrain from putting her real name in, even though we all know it to be true... 76.218.205.175 (talk) 22:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Technically, there should be multiple reliable sources per WP:BLPPUBLIC.-- Laun chba ller 22:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't understand why some people want her Wikipedia article not to include her real name. I, for one, am always wary of people who want to remain fully anonymous while being public figures. How can I verify that you're not a pedophile or criminal? The public has the right to know!" Hieraticguy (talk) 17:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Your argument makes no sense. People have a right to privacy. Respect horsegiirL's privacy. Bernzrdo (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

horsegiirL images
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/music/horsegiirl-talks-about-her-critics-and-making-music-ahead-of-miami-set-17736470

https://www.beatport.com/release/pegasus/3954146 GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 01:52, 8 March 2024 (UTC)