Talk:Horselunges Manor

Bravo
Great article! I've done a little bit of copy editing. 86.137.147.216 (talk) 15:11, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps, just perhaps, the first baron deliberately hanged for murder in England in a particular period.
But not [what] the article claims, based on an entirely inappropriate cite. Qwirkle (talk) 16:06, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Source looks reliable, why do you think it isn't? It's from a biography about the band, which includes detail on the house related to the band. And is not a self-published source. But I'll remove that first claim if it pleases you. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:04, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ”Reliable”, in Wikipedia’s peculiar sense, is not the same as “appropriate.” What particular expertise does the author have about legal history? Qwirkle (talk) 23:24, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * But I'll remove that first claim if it pleases you. Better, by far, to remove it because it is simply inaccurate, without a good deal of added detail and nuance. Qwirkle (talk) 23:24, 16 October 2021 (UTC)


 * And tagging a whole article for factual accuracy because you disagree with one thing is petty. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:05, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Given the level of sourcing, what makes you think this is the only thing wrong with it? Qwirkle (talk) 23:24, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Given that an article of 2,300 characters has 13 sources, I think sourcing is fine. In the case of actual problems, easiest way is to fix it (rather than complain referencing a source in another article, instead of just adding that source here). Joseph2302 (talk) 14:44, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Obviously, you think the sourcing was “fine”, and you appear to believe that simply counting words and cites provides a useful clue about this. That’s the problem. A biography of a current figures might be a good source of folk beliefs about history, but it isn’t particularly likely to be a reliable -in the ordinary sense, not newspeak wikiblather - source about actual history…and, surprise, surprise, in this case it wasn’t. Qwirkle (talk) 15:33, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Etymology claimed
This is but one of at least 3 theories; I suspect the Lyngyver etymology may be the correct one. Qwirkle (talk) 05:08, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen a source for any others- feel free to add them all as possibilities. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:11, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Fiennes did not, probably, actually kill Busbrig
Dacre was convicted of murder because he led a criminal enterprise -poaching- that resulted in a death, not because he did the actual stabbing. Qwirkle (talk) 05:17, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Feel free to edit it with a reliable source. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 07:11, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Fixed to what the ODNB says. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 14:44, 18 October 2021 (UTC)