Talk:Horton Plains National Park

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I've added alt text and tweaked the article yet again. Do we know how many visitors the park gets annually?  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  07:49, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I am afraid, we don't have the number of annual visitors. Revenue-wise it is the second most earner after Yala. I was able to get the visitor information on Udawalawe though.-- Chanaka L  ( talk ) 08:52, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I expanded the lead section to summarize the text.-- Chanaka L  ( talk ) 08:34, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Good, I've tidied it a bit to remove repetition (the name of the park is used far too often), and running sentences together to improve the flow. Please change back anything you don't like
 * Thanks Jim, It is all OK. Do you think now it is ready for nomination? -- Chanaka L  ( talk ) 09:22, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think so, it will probably be a while before it gets reviewed, so we can carry on refining the prose any way. A reviewer is bound to pick up on things we have missed any way.  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  11:23, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Showtime! I listed it in GAN. I think would be good idea of keep improving the text. A question, As an usual practice for a mammal species mentioned in the source, if it has a subspecies in Sri Lanka I go for subspecies. Eg. Elephant -> Sri Lankan Elephant, Sambar Deer -> Sri Lankan Sambar Deer. Is there any wrong with that?-- Chanaka L  ( talk ) 12:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Nothing at all - they are linked to appropriate articles, and are more accurate that just eg Asian Elephant  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  13:48, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Access
Under visitor attractions, is it worth adding something about access. It's easily reached by road from Nuaya Eliya, but I seem to remember that there's a train station near the park. What are the opening hours  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  07:03, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * ✅ access roads. Final ticket issue for entrance is done at 4.00pm. Er... couldn't find any thing on opening hours.-- Chanaka L  ( talk ) 07:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Found this regarding num. of visitors. I'm afraid, no mention of HP though. Table 19 & 20 -- Chanaka L  ( talk ) 10:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Any use?
Shyamal sent me this link. Any use?  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:57, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I took boreal herbaceous plants info from there. Seems they are very colourful.-- Chanaka L  ( talk ) 09:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

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Please explain replacement of significantly higher quality photographs. Only because I made them? --A.Savin (talk) 01:05, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * There is already an existing image of the grassland vegetation within the article, this image depicts the cloud forest vegetation, which is equally significant. Dan arndt (talk) 02:54, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * If Obi2canoibe is unwilling to answer my question, surely you can do it for them. I'm waiting. --A.Savin (talk) 13:42, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I don’t presume to answer on anyone else’s behalf. I’ve already provided my explanation - your image is a duplication of another better image contained in the article. At least this image provides a contrast of the different vegetation types within the national park. Dan arndt (talk) 15:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * So does mine, and it is technically very much better. A "duplication", as for me, is e.g. if there are two photos of World's End in the article. --A.Savin (talk) 16:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Have solved the issue and replaced the main image with one that is more representative of the National Park therefore avoiding the issue of having two images effectively depicting the same landscape. Dan arndt (talk) 02:39, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I strongly disagree. Such low quality picture has nothing lost in the infobox. --A.Savin (talk) 13:08, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Commons:Category:Horton Plains National Park has dozens of images of the park. So why do want to include an over processed image of a dusty path leading up a mountain? The current image, whilst better, is still not the best representation of the park. It would be better if we had a image of the park taken from high above giving a wider, panoramic view of the park. The original image did this. Other examples include this, this, this and this.--Obi2canibe (talk) 16:44, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The original image, apart from the low quality, id not a representation of the whole park, because it depicts only the view from World's End, which is only a partial aspect. The park is called "Horton Plains ", with "plains" meaning that big parts of the area are flat, while located at a high elevation. --A.Savin (talk) 17:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * And the above of course still means that you are perfectly free to select a real better infobox picture, or go there yourself and take one (if you can). --A.Savin (talk) 17:11, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


 * The images you've chosen only show a partial aspect of the park - a dusty path up a mountain or a close of a river. They do not show wide view of the park. Views from World's End don't need to be excluded from this article just because there is separate article. If the view from World's End is the best image of the park then that's what we should include.


 * The title may include "plains" but the parks tropical montane cloud forest are the reason why it's part of a UNESCO World Heritage Site.--Obi2canibe (talk) 18:31, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


 * As you may have noticed, a World's End view picture is already in the article, so no need to be upset that it's no longer in the box too. Don't worry, be happy. --A.Savin (talk) 21:02, 6 June 2020 (UTC)


 * If that's the problem, the solution is to remove the image of World's End from main body and place one in the info box. The image in the main body shouldn't be anywhere in this article, or any other article. When we have a choice of dozens of images why should we include an over processed image with a bunch of gawking European tourists?--Obi2canibe (talk) 14:05, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, you don't need to repeat over and over again that you find all my pictures bad, I know it meanwhile, and I disagree. The "bunch of gawking European tourists" is because the caption is "The World's End is a tourist attraction", or sth like that. And you see the whole landmark on the picture and why it's actually called World's End. But feel free to go there and take a picture without tourists, as long as they are not back yet. --A.Savin (talk) 14:14, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * There are other images on Commons which can be used illustrate this point and aren't over processed or manipulated to give an unnatural look. Why choose this one?--Obi2canibe (talk) 15:22, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You really don't need to tell me like a mantra over and over again "Your pictures are overprocessed". You are not someone I have respect for. It definitely needs a neutral opinion. This way we will not come forward. I'm really sorry. --A.Savin (talk) 21:39, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Fine, let's wait for a WP:3O. And respect WP:BRD, as you been told at ANI.--Obi2canibe (talk) 13:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Your statement above of "You are not someone I have respect for" violates WP:CIVIL and is not a helpful comment. 1292simon (talk) 10:03, 14 June 2020 (UTC)