Talk:Hot air balloon

Requested move 30 December 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Hot-air balloon → Hot air balloon – Looking through the sources and external links here and Google, Google News, and Google Books results, a significant majority spell this without the hyphen. This includes the FAA, AP, LA Times, and others. I recognize that there are also sources that use the hyphen, but it seems without is the WP:COMMONNAME. The title of this page is inconsistent with pretty much all related pages, including Hot air ballooning, List of hot air balloon festivals, and 2016 Lockhart hot air balloon crash, etc., so if this isn't moved, they should be moved instead to match this article. Reywas92Talk 03:55, 30 December 2021 (UTC) Reywas92Talk 03:55, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose per MOS:HYPHEN. I would also note that Encyclopedia Britannica uses the hyphenated form for their article title, as does Webster's Dictionary and Dictionary.com. Also, Move Hot air ballooning → Hot-air ballooning and List of hot air balloon festivals → List of hot-air balloon festivals and 2016 Lockhart hot air balloon crash → 2016 Lockhart hot-air balloon crash, as well as any others that are currently unhyphenated. Rreagan007 (talk) 04:41, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * could you elaborate on how you see MOS:HYPHEN as supporting the current name? Colin M (talk) 17:56, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
 * "To link related terms in compound modifiers". In this case, "hot-air" is a compound modifier. This article is not about an air balloon that has a high temperature. It's a balloon filled with hot air. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:59, 30 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Support per nom and the names of the other pages ('Hot air ballooning', 'List of hot air balloon festivals' and the entries on its chart, etc.) and many of their sources and External links. Looks like no-hyphen is the common name among the hobbyists themselves, but I may be full of hot air. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:06, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. It appears the most frequent usage by a decent margin is to omit the hyphen.  SnowFire (talk) 06:16, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Reluctant support per nom and subsequent comments. I do think is absolutely right, but there is a massive weight of usage against what appears to be the correct punctuation. Yes, you do see both, but the nonhyphenated one (or is it non-hyphenated?) seems to dominate. I looked at the CAA, the BBAC, and a load of UK commercial operators, including the company owned by my personal favourite pilot (yes, OR, sue me) and I saw a lot of hot air, less hot-air, and that last visit clinched it. Even Cameron in Bristol, who are pretty diehard about the hot-air usage on their site, still manage some inconsistencies. Sorry, I would love it to be right, but I think we are really a bit stuffed on the usage. Finally, the joys of hypertext do mean it doesn't matter that much anyway, even if it is annoying to purists, and whatever the outcome I think the lead should contain both versions, bolded, so we acknowledge the alternative rather than claiming One True Way. Best to all DBaK (talk) 19:58, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Add "Brazilian-born" before "Portuguese priest" when referring to Gusmão
Bartolomeu de Gusmão is born in Brazil and did most of his baloon work in Brazil. He is known as a historic figure of Brazil, and it seems quite eurocentric (and even racist) to treat him as Portuguese without any mention to Brazil.

I was planning add it directly (because it is anyway the way his own Wikipedia article describes him), but the article is protected... so I am adding this here in the talk. 2A02:8071:B82:6760:A5FB:F8E4:DD92:7D56 (talk) 11:48, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: History of Science
— Assignment last updated by ElizaJane11 (talk) 16:07, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

As part of this assignment, I am expanding the theory of operations section a bit for the various types of balloons to provide a bit more clarity and I added a picture for the hybrid balloons as well since I felt like it was missing. - NGrahamMST

Gallons wrong under Combined Mass section
It says 376 liters is 20 gallons, but it's 10 gallons. 3.785 L = 1 gallon. 2603:6082:2800:61:B132:1DAE:4014:B855 (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2024
[All are simple English grammar, punctuation or syntax amendments]

CHANGE The purpose of Passarola was to serve as air vessel TO The purpose of Passarola was to serve as an air vessel

CHANGE was performed at Casa da India in presence of John V, the queen Maria Anna of Austria TO was performed at the Casa da India in the presence of John V and the queen, Maria Anna of Austria,

CHANGE The notable balloonist Julian Nott, in the 1970s; hypothesized that two millennia ago, the Nazca TO The notable balloonist Julian Nott hypothesized in the 1970s that two millennia ago the Nazca

CHANGE In 1975 to support this theory, he designed TO To support this theory, in 1975 he designed TreesAreTrees (talk) 10:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)


 * ✅ Changes made with some additional copy editing. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 11:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)