Talk:Hot spring

Government regulation

 * It should be noted that the many hot springs in Yellowstone and Lassen National Parks are NUBP - Not Usable By The Public, by senseless government decree. We call it senseless because First Nation Aboriginals soaked in those selfsame springs for thousands of years befor the invasion of the white people.

This is POV. --Feitclub 21:07, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)

Therapeutic warning
In the theriputic uses section or possibly another section it should also be noted that consistantly hot or warm water is the perfect environment for bacteria and viruses to breed it is not recomended to enter a hot spring with open wonds or sores. also it is possible to catch cold and the like from a hot spring....


 * I included a section on infections and hot springs with some references. This could be much longer but this is just an introduction. Eventually an interesting separate article on infections in hot springs could be written.--Filll 20:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


 * And on the beneficial effects of spring waters? Hmm.  I probably have two sources for that, I'll dig them up and boil them down.  (SEWilco 03:55, 4 November 2006 (UTC))

Yes we need to have more on therapeutic benefits. That section is very short and is pretty weak on references. I also have been collecting references discussing the benefits of mineral waters, which are related. The history of mineral waters, both for consumption and bathing, is especially interesting to me. I think there might be enough material to make a separate article on the health benefits of hot water spas and hot springs and mineral springs, but there could be an introduction here with a link. --Filll 05:22, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Here is a list of supposed benefits from a web site about the Brazillian hot springs of Caldas Novas: Studies accomplished by F.C. Harrison and W.H.B. Aikins reveals that these thermal waters exercise on the organism the following therapeutic actions:

 1. increase the diurese, favor the elimination of the uric acid and the breakup of renal calculus;  2. lower the arterial pressure;  3. decrease the viscosity of the blood;  4. improve the digestion, combat the gastric acidity, being suitable in the gastritises and constipation;  5. exercise analgesic action on the rheumatic infections and neuritis;  6. stimulate the internal secretion glands and the sexual vitality;  7. lower the rate of glicose of the diabetes; '' 8. possess anti-allergic and anti-toxic action. ''

Splitting article
I propose to split the article up and remove the partial listing of hot springs around the world to a separate article. It is unwieldy and sort of a mess right now, to be honest.--Filll 13:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it started as a little list of major sites and now should go join the other "List of..." articles. The U.S. map shows that just in that area the entire Rocky Mountains zone is full of springs.  That's due to a submerged continent's worth of water trickling up, but implies there can be other rather large areas full of points to be listed. (SEWilco 19:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC))
 * I split it up.--Filll 20:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Why the rush? Seven hours is not much time to allow other editors to weigh in. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 21:39, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree that maybe I should have waited for a few days. However, all the mterial is still available in the other article.--Filll 21:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Intro
How about this as an intro?

A hot spring is a spring whose water is heated by geothermal processes as it leaves the ground. There are hot springs all over the earth, on every continent and even in the oceans.

just a little rewording. Nashville Monkey 21:38, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Well we could try to get the word "geothermal" into the first sentence if you really wanted. The objection I have to that is it is not really accurate. The water is heated by geothermal processes before it leaves the ground, or heated by geothermal processes in the ground. How about


 * A hot spring is a spring whose water is heated by geothermal processes. There are hot springs all over the earth, on every continent and even in (or under) the oceans (or seas).


 * The one drawback is that it does not include the word groundwater which is nice to have. Maybe a way can be thought of to include it however. Obviously the words in the parentheses (...) are alternate wording to consider. What do you think?--Filll 21:45, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * How about
 * A hot spring is a spring whose groundwater source is heated by geothermal processes. There are hot springs all over the earth, on every continent and even in the oceans and seas.
 * That covers it, doesn't it? Nashville Monkey 22:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm going to be bold and go ahead and change it, if it isn't right change it back. Nashville Monkey 06:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I am still thinking about it. I am not sure the English of the new version is that great. I will try to think of something better. So why did you want to change it? The other sounded too simple to you ?--Filll 13:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually it just seemed wrong to have the redundancy of hot as a descriptive term for hot spring, it just seemed to invite comment, heck I don't know... yeah I guess it sounded too simple :) Nashville Monkey 01:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Americo-centric?
Why is this only about the US?


 * It need not be! Be bold and add some info about other hot springs in the world!


 * Atlant 23:28, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia tends to have a systemic bias, covering English-speaking countries in more detail than non-English-speaking countries. RexNL 16:28, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I think several U.S. government sources have been used, which mostly have U.S. info. (SEWilco 19:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC))

It is no longer centered on the US (except for a length of National Parks). I removed large sections of the text and placed it in a separate article.--Filll 20:43, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Now this article is tagged for the national parks with hot springs. I am tempted to remove that section and spin it off into another article.--Filll 20:52, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I have counted. There are 13 US hot springs and organizations mentioned, and about 39 nonUS hot springs and organizations mentioned. So the US constitutes about 25% of the content. This does not appear to have some huge US bias, particularly since this is English Wikipedia, and of the speakers of English as a first language (about 370 million worldwide), the overwhelming majority are American. If one counts all english speakers, the US is about 15%, so 25% is not a huge overestimate. As more content gets added, this will undoubtedly decrease. This is natural. A quick glance at the Spanish Wikipedia article on Hot springs shows that a large fraction of the Hot Springs mentioned are in Spanish speaking countries, and only 2 of the 20 hot springs described are in the US. --Filll 21:12, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

just one point; the "hot spring" shown in Taiwan isn't in fact a hot spring. It's a fumerole. It is within the whole hot spring area of Yangmingshan NP but that particular spot to my knowledge doesnt have a spring as such, only super-heated steam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.130.221.52 (talk) 06:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Nudism template
Is such a huge template really germane here?--Filll (talk) 23:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm going to remove it now. The words "nudist", "nudism", "nudity", "naturist", etc, only occur in the template, they appear no where in the actual prose of the article. If the nudity WikiProject is to add solid content to the article, then it can go back in. Gentgeen (talk) 20:01, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Temperature conversion
For the definitions listed in the introduction, the two instances where the temperatures are listed as "above mean air temperature," the conversion factor of C to F is 1.8x, not 1.8x+32 since it is referring to a temperature difference rather than a temperature. Therefore 6.5C is 11.7F and 8.3C is 14.9F. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.84.134.252 (talk) 06:16, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
 * So why haven't you fixed it? Eeekster (talk) 01:52, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Herpes as a risk?
In the biota section: a bather may have been infected with the herpes simplex virus? Just because someone in a journal somewhere postulates that something may have happened doesn't mean it's worthy of being put into an encyclopedia.Zaileron (talk) 01:49, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Hottest hot spring
The above claim is made in this and other wikipedia articles.

In Serbia is located world hottest spring. World's hottest water by far is hot water spring in Vranjska Banja (111°C).[citation needed]

The only citation - and it is a very new and scientific one is at http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/reservoir-capital-corp-20mw-potential-estimated-vranjska-banja-geothermal-project-tsx-venture-reo-1609489.htm this confirms the 96 degree water of this spring. however the page only claims this as the hottest in Serbia.

To my mind any boiling hot spring will be of that temperature and there are truely 1000's of these through out the world. Not to mention geysers and their superheated boiling explosive vents.

The Serbia claim smacks of being "world famous in Serbia"! I'll leave this a week or two and will remove the "hottest" claim from this and other pages if no one objects. Andrewgprout (talk) 05:55, 24 January 2012 (UTC) done Andrewgprout (talk) 18:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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Clarify definitions section, please
The section on the ambiguous definition of the term "hot spring" itself seems ambiguous or redundant. Most seem to be just different ways to say warmer-than-surroundings or hotter-than-human. (And don't some even boil?)

There are also some vague references to what I'm guessing are either about where the water comes from or the method of its heating. Further clarification of the distinctions would be welcomed.

KhyranLeander 18:07, 29 March 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khyranleander (talk • contribs)

Contradiction or ambiguity
It is stated that Lake Heviz is the second largest thermal lake. It is also stated that Boiling Lake is the second largest hot spring. Thermal lake redirects to hot spring, and depending on definition, may or may not be synonymous to it. ZFT (talk) 22:40, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Seems a moot point in the future, from where I've removed your tag. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:50, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

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