Talk:Hotel Mario/Archive 1

Mario Party
I seem to remember a mini game in Mario Party 5 called "hotel mario" or "hotel goomba" It was a puzzle game that sound similar to this, is this worth noting in the article? I don't have any proof they are related, but I am curious if anyone knows.Mwv2 18:41, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Criticism section
This section is very unencyclopedic, POV with no citations whatsoever. I'm going to remove it. Makron1n 01:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Breaking the fourth wall comment
The Mario line "If you need instructions", while being an Internet meme of a sort, also has him talking to the player, therefore it breaks the fourth wall. I'm just saying it here - there's no need to put this in the article. --Addict 2006 15:23, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Mark Graue
Mark Graue is NOT a "famous pop star and television actor". I call WP:WEASEL on this. Ppk01 13:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmm.. World of Warcract famous enough? 71.163.117.33 (talk) 01:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Mark Graue (con.)
This article states that the Princess is voiced by Mark Graue. Who has done this? MamaWaluigi 03:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

YTP
Hey now come on! Could sombody please include somthing about its legacy on youtube?67.140.102.37 (talk) 20:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Until a notable news source confirms its existence, why should we? User:Cat& (talk) 23:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If I said there was a bucket in my house, and you came over to look for the bucket, after finding it, would you still ask for a newspaper article to prove I had a bucket in my house? *facepalm* 207.28.147.2 (talk) 19:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Irrelevant. There is a huge difference between physical objects and encyclopedia articles; one needs only reliable online and/or print sources to prove its validity, and the other would require much scientific and/or philosophical analysis just to prove its existence. Cat&#39;s Tuxedo (talk) 22:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * So even though YTP is big on YouTube and this is one of it sources used, you need recognition in order to prove it? How will that happen? Type in "YouTube Poop" on Google and see how many search results come up. And YouTube Poop's popularity on YouTube is valid enough to say it is true! So many have done it! 68.194.242.39 (talk) 21:21, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * And when you say "notable news source," do we seriously have to have a news station report on it just to prove its existence? So if I wrote a book just now, would NBC have to say my book exists? Or would I have to advertise it on Amazon? Which one? 68.194.242.39 (talk) 21:24, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * See this AfD over the meme's article -Thibbs (talk) 02:42, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

In response to Cat&#39;s Tuxedo: YouTube Poop videos, which Hotel Mario is one of the foundational sources of material, have garnered millions of views and spawned an abundance of derivatives since then (such as the MLG montage parodies). The only reason Hotel Mario has any level of notoriety today is because the series was revived via these YouTube Poop videos. Although I cannot provide empirical evidence, I guarantee you that the grand majority of people who know of the existence of Hotel Mario today do so because they first saw a YouTube poop video parodying it.

As an aside, this isn't the first time Wikipedia has not recognized the cultural relevance of YouTube/new media (see my comments about The Needle Drop in the article about Kendrick Lamar's "To Pimp a Butterfly Album"). Although I understand that an encyclopedia is supposed to strive for objectivity by providing secondary sources, it places an undue amount of emphasis on more traditional forms of media such as print, radio, and television, in an era in which the internet is rapidly becoming the dominant source of entertainment. In my uneducated opinion, this constitutes undue bias and elitism.


 * 1) You're resurrecting a 2 year old discussion - nobody cares about it anymore, or it would have been acted upon prior to this.
 * 2) You disprove the strength of your own argument by saying "I cannot provide empirical evidence" - in that case nothing you say, despite being prefixed by your "guarantee", is worth anything at all.  That's exactly why we insist upon reliable sourcing.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 20:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Clearly I care about it Chaheel Riens (1>0, thus disqualifying your claim that "nobody cares"), and the only reason I am posting about it is because I just became aware of it now. Not being able to provide empirical evidence does not necessarily invalidate an argument; I'm simply being honest about the fact that I don't care enough to take time out of my day to methodically substantiate my claims with statistical data for what is ultimately part of a very trivial discussion. A more accurate statement would have been "I don't think it's necessary for me to take the time to provide you with empirical data about whether or not Hotel Mario's modern notoriety is a consequence of the emergence of the YouTube Poop phenomenon", but that sounded a bit too wordy so I went with what I said above. Nevertheless, I will entertain you with the following:


 * 1) https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=Hotel%20Mario%2C%20Youtube%20Poop&cmpt=q&tz=
 * 2) http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hotel-mario
 * 3) http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/youtube-poop-ytp
 * 4) http://youchew.net/wiki/index.php?title=YouTube_Poop
 * 5) https://www.youtube.com/results?search_sort=video_view_count&search_query=%22hotel+mario%22
 * 6) https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22hotel+mario%22+%22youtube+poop%22

All Toasters Toast Toast?
Does that line really need to be put in the article? Funky on Flames (talk) 23:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No. User:Cat& (talk) 03:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Besides, toasters don't toast toast, they toast bread, silly mario! -WikiChicken —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiChicken81112 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Princess Toadstool's voice
Does anyone know who voiced Princess Toadstool and who voiced the other characters? Toadstool's voice sounds a lot like Jeannie Elias or Tracey Moore. StevenMario (talk) 22:26, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Jocelyn Benford voiced the Princess while Marc Graue voiced Mario, Luigi and Bowser. It says so in the article. Cat&#39;s Tuxedo (talk) 02:00, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

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Receptions
This game along with the Zelda CDI games initially got mixed reviews, but then later got panned by modern critics and gamers alike in following years. What’s going on?! When I initially experience those CDI games, I used to thought they firstly came out as worst reviewed by the critics, like always, before I eventually learned they were criticized as mediocre to begin with. This is crazy, it’s like "make up your mind people! Are they mediocre or bad?!", since I know they were, even today, the worst games ever made! I’m confused now. I feel like I’m in The Twilight Zone, where none of those situations make any sense whatsoever!

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 * It's called hindsight and retrospection. Opinions can change. Cat&#39;s Tuxedo (talk) 05:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Describe those words you mentioned please. 184.90.145.149 (talk) 05:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Here, look em up: https://www.dictionary.com/ Cat&#39;s Tuxedo (talk) 07:03, 16 August 2021 (UTC)


 * So that’s it. Presumably, this must be the old games’ qualities are how they would later be criticized as the worst ever made by contemporary reviewers. All because they find them outdated because of today’s qualities we have, which are better, right? It’s that reason why of this? Or am I wrong? 184.90.145.149 (talk) 16:15, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

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