Talk:House of Fürstenberg (Swabia)

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The list of Notable members of the House of Fürstenberg is incorrect. The barons and counts of Fürstenberg are unrelated tot the princes. Känsterle 00:39, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Really? If you have a source, could you straighten it out?  I don't have a Handbuch des Adels...--Joe 09:08, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, if this is a mistake, it is quite a serious one, so if you can shed any light on this, please do. This article is being mirrored and showing up near the top of every search engine.  I will try to find that online genealogy on which I based this; I thought it showed that the princely line and the baronial could all be traced back to some 18th century ancestor (William, I believe), but I may have misconstrued it.  --Joe 09:17, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right, the houses were founded around the same time - which helped lead to some confusion on my part - but the founders do not appear to be related.

The 19th century German encyclopedia Meyers Konversations-Lexikon has separate articles about "Fürstenberg, altes Grafen- und Fürstengeschlecht in Schwaben" (Fürstenberg, ancient comital and princely family in Swabia) and "Fürstenberg, alte freiherrliche Familie, in Westfalen und dem Rheinland" (Fürstenberg, ancient baronial family in Westphalia and the Rhineland" . The German Wikipedia has an article de:Fürstenhaus Fürstenberg (Princely House of Fürstenberg) and an article de:Freiherren von Fürstenberg (Barons of Fürstenberg). According to the last article, the two families have "genealogically nothing in common" (genealogisch nichts gemeinsam). Känsterle 14:56, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

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