Talk:House of Hohenzollern/Archive 1

Question
I'm really confused...can someone clear me up on this (here or here)? This really isn't an article at all...just a list of names. Is this the way it is meant to be? Because to a complete novice on the subject, it makes no sense whatsoever...except maybe that they were family? Help would be appreciated greatly! :) Thanks in advance. -- ♥ Do Not Disturb  ♥  15:46, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It really did need some introduction, didn't it? I just copied the opening from Category:House of Hohenzollern, which will do to start with, I think. -- Perey 02:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Peculiar Redirect
Howcum searching on "House of Hohenzolllern" redirects you to simply "Hohenzollern" -- but then there's a link at the bottomof the page to "House of Hohenzollern"? --Michael K. Smith 19:50, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

The House of Hohenzollern Site
Can you check out www.houseofhohenzollern.com? There is information about a King of Prussia and could you get back to me?


 * Hoax. Charles 01:30, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Can you start a Plaintiffs section then under Rulers/Monarchs? 09:52, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * No. Charles 17:06, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Saltire?
I'm suspicious of this section: "The family crest, first adopted in 1192, began as a simple shield with four silver and black quarters in the form of a saltire." The later arms (as shown in a stained glass window on the page) were quarterly sable and argent, but divided per saltire? If this was indeed the earliest form, shouldn't the reference for it be cited? Jefullerton 17:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)jefullerton

The Official Burg Hohenzollern site
This is great rich with history and many pictures. As a decendant, I hope to learn more about my heritage.

http://www.preussen.de/de/heute/burg_hohenzollern.html

You can have this translated via Google http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en or other sites.

Enjoy! Matt 13:54, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Hehe, you too? ^^ Hello cousin! Thanks for the website. I was wondering if there's any way to trace my ancestry and see where my family branched off? 99.129.215.86 (talk) 11:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Just to let you know, there is an English option at the bottom so you don't actually have to translate it. 99.154.132.118 (talk) 04:47, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Senior / Cadet Branches Reversed
Through much of this and most but not all related articles the two branches seniority status is reversed. This is also unfortunately true on the German Wikipedia site. Frederick IV was the older brother and Conrad III was the younger brother, at least that is what the family believed. If others don’t get to it first I will begin to correct with appropriate references. This is an important point in the relationship between the Head of the House of Hohenzollern in Swabia and the more powerful and much more important Kings and Emperors from the cadet branch. --CSvBibra (talk) 16:40, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

File:Vivat-bander - 1915 - Zollern.jpg
Hi, Just scanned and uploaded several Vivat ribbons from WWI. One of them commemorates house of Zollern. I would like some help identifying different people in the genealogical tree, as well as, crowns and medals. If possible annotate image in Commons using their annotation tool. --Jarekt (talk) 14:17, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Succession
Since there are only six people in the line of succession, it appears that the German Imperial family is shrinking. What would happen to the claims to the thrones of Germany, Prussia, and Mecklenburg if all of the male lines to these thrones died out? Would the last House head leave the claims to someone else in his will, or would it mean an end to claims to these thrones unless Germany decided to restore monarchy by electing a new line? Emperor001 22:11, 17 May 2007 (UTC) [The line of succession should extend into the United States. My family fled Prussia around 1898. My great-great grandfather was Duke Etvart of Oberschleissen. The Hohenzollern house has succession if they seek it. From user: rekosch1980, added 16 October, 2009]
 * Prince Louis Ferdinand's eldest son, Prince Friedrich Wilhelm, has plenty of male descendants. One guesses that if the undoubtedly royal part of the family were in danger of dying out, this line and others in similar circumstances would be redynasticized. john k (talk) 00:45, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

-I agree with you, the house should be extended into the united states, because my great-great-great-great grandfather was King Frederick William IV of Prussia. If that branch of the family died out, the "Head of the House" would most likely go to my father, since his it the eldest direct descendant. I know he and I still retain the title of "Prince," but it's so petty, it's more honorary than anything.

Hohenzollern Family
Video Part 1 Video Part 2 Video Part 3--188.194.60.150 (talk) 00:24, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Picture Arrangement
I am not sure how the pictures should be arranged. Maybe someone with good taste want to rearrange the pictures. House of Hohenzollern. Thank you.--MICHAVP (talk) 13:47, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Burchardings
Burkhard_I,_Count_of_Zollern.--84.138.74.178 (talk) 18:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Hoax driven vandalism
Since at least August 2014, on several articles related to members of the Prussian House of Hohenzollern, including this one, socks and anons have repeatedly inserted edits containing false information based on this hoax, posted on Prince August Wilhelm of Prussia on 5 August 2014 at 17:58: "1944 Prince August Wilhelm married for the second time with russian Princess Catherine of Drutsk (the Rurik dynasty). They had a son, and they named him Alexander Friedrich (Prince Alexander Friedrich of Prussia (1945—2009))...Prince Alexander Friedrich of Prussia (1945—2009). He also, in turn, married and had two children (Prince Alexander( Alexander Ludwig Eugen Adalbert Ferdinand Günter Eitel Christian Viktor Prinz von Preussen) and Prince Heinrich (Mithras Theoderich Karl Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Albrecht Lorenz August Prinz von Preussen))." This fairy tale gets embellished with online citations, etc. as it is deleted and re-added to articles. Apparently the perpetrator believes that he or she is a descendant of Hohenzollern royalty and wants people who read English Wikipedia to believe it too. Beware. FactStraight (talk) 01:37, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Adolf Hitler, political historian
I wonder what Malaysia Kuala Lumpur Tmnet customer 175.145.115.252 had in mind when they added a paragraph that was sourced to "Adolf Hitler's Second (secret) Book, chapter 14 / page 76"; and what Qwest Communications customer 97.117.249.253 had in mind when, with the edit summary "No consensus", they reverted User:Yopie's removal of this paragraph.

This was 175.145.115.252's only edit; I don't suppose they'll return. But I do have some questions for 97.117.249.253 (who has made several other edits elsewhere with the summary "No consensus"):


 * Is "Adolf Hitler's Second (secret) Book" the same as Zweites Buch? If it is, why not adjust the reinstated paragraph accordingly? If it isn't, then what is it?
 * Whatever "Adolf Hitler's Second (secret) Book" is, is it written by Adolf Hitler?
 * If it's not written by Adolf Hitler, then who's it by?
 * If it is by Adolf Hitler, then are you implying that Adolf Hitler is a reliable source for this kind of matter?
 * Is any deletion that does not follow agreement in a talk page discussion rightly reversed on the grounds of "No consensus", or is this material not routine but instead unusually valuable?

-- Hoary (talk) 06:27, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

On the lede
In the lede, there's a citation needed sign over the origin of the house. The Encyclopedia Britannica has evidence of it dating back to some Burchardinger named Thassilo, who I could find no record of besides the entry. But here it is, for future reference. Jerry (talk) 21:54, 27 February 2017 (UTC)