Talk:House of Yahweh

Original research
The article has gone to hell with a bunch of NPOV and OR issues. There is a significant amount of citations around demonstrating it is considered a cult (I added one today, will add others). Obviously the article needs to maintain an objective stance, but this is starting to look like a recruiting tool for the cult, not an article. It is completely littered with OR as well. Dennis Brown (talk) 02:45, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * So then, please fix it. (I happen to agree, but I don't have the time)  &mdash; Jess &middot; &Delta;&hearts; 04:20, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I expect to, and have started to. I tend to announce major changes before I get too involved, in the interest of hearing anyone who has a differing opinion, or wants to take the time to actually CITE the stuff.  Thanks for the vote of confidence ;) Dennis Brown (talk) 14:35, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * FYI, I copedited some of the inner content. References appear to be our biggest problem; most of the article should be deleted, but since it is almost all unsourced, it's currently unclear which parts are notable and which are not.  &mdash; Jess &middot; &Delta;&hearts; 15:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Where did footnote 10 go?

Its [10] is in the article, but there is no footnote (in reference to a false prediction).

Maybe it's in the History?

Thanks!

Misty MH (talk) 20:55, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Changed apparent exaggeration that was uncited.
From:

has membership of all peoples from nations all over the globe and

To:

has had membership of people from around the globe, and

Misty MH (talk) 20:21, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Beliefs section
Changed references to God to Yahweh, as they don't use the term God for Yahweh.

Also cleaned up some other statements and formatting.

Misty MH (talk) 20:34, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

MISC
I did not scour the whole article, but--

I changed and cleaned up some miscellaneous statements, and added where it seemed needed.

"church" was changed to "assembly".

Other minor edits were made.

Misty MH (talk) 20:51, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Global
I removed the claim of having members all over the globe. Based on, it appears the cult itself is the only one to make the claim. There is/was a group in Kenya, but there is no evidence it is global. Even their claims said "hundreds" of followers, so saying they are global is way out of proportion and not backed by secondary sources. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 01:48, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2021
Yisrael Hawkins passed away on October 8, 2021. 209.205.176.88 (talk) 23:49, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:53, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2021
Edit to add that he passed away on October 8, 2021. Elders do not want people to know and have worked to delete this edit. It’s part of controlling the narrative that Wikipedia should fight against. That’s why there won’t be any news sources. No one will go on record who has personal knowledge and no coroner was called. There will be no death certificate. The members across the globe will be shielded from this knowledge so the elders can maintain power. Help me fight this. I heard directly from a relative of Yisrayl Hawkins. It’s 100% accurate. Yisrayl Hawkins died in one of his residences off the compound on the night of October 8, 2021. He left 4 elders in charge. Kaypea123456789 (talk) 00:12, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I'm afraid that per Wikipedia's current policies we must either have a reliable source for the inclusion or the inclusion cannot occur. — Sirdog (talk) 00:16, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Could you add something that references the fact that it is unsourced. I’ve seen that many times on Wikipedia pages. Kaypea123456789 (talk) 00:21, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That is typically done when an editor finds an already existing unsourced claim or statement and believe it's worth tagging to be fixed rather than removing it in whole. I don't think it would be appropriate to use the template for the purpose of adding a claim - especially the claim of someone being dead - that is not cited by the person making it. — Sirdog (talk) 00:27, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Is Yisrayl Hawkins deceased?
Yes as of October 8, 2021 Kaypea123456789 (talk) 00:25, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2021 (2)
Founder has died.

https://ktxs.com/news/local/yisrayl-hawkins-the-leader-of-the-house-of-yahweh-has-died Kaypea123456789 (talk) 23:09, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:32, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

More details? Misty MH (talk) 06:32, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Correction:
House of Yahweh is located in Clyde Texas not Eula TX

Only 2 locations: Abilene Texas, Clyde Texas 166.196.65.17 (talk) 10:05, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * All the sources say Eula, including the most recent, https://ktxs.com/news/big-country/validity-of-yisrayl-hawkins-will-contested#, so we go with what the sources say, not random IPs on talk pages.  See WP:V. Dennis Brown - 2&cent; 00:38, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Death Record
Yisrayl Hawkins was almost 90 years old when he passed away. Died in His sleep body shut down while He was at private barbershop sitting in chair on a Friday on a "prepday" before the Holy Sabbath Day in Clyde Texas not Abilene TX. Year: Oct 2021 Was 87 years old Born: Aug 1934 / Oklahoma USA 166.196.65.17 (talk) 10:38, 27 July 2023 (UTC)