Talk:Housing inequality in Ohio

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Interesting choice for your article. I can see you've put a lot of thought into your overall idea and now it's time to start finding more sources and organizing the article to look like a Wikipedia page. I know the original directions were a summary, but now that you have a topic in mind, start making headings to make this easier to read. I'm also not sure why I can't see this in your sandbox and only see this on your talk page? Starting to learn how to use Wikipedia from an editing standpoint is frustrating! Take a look back at the training and videos. This is will help you. (I have to do it too!) I look forward to seeing your improvements. Katelynyac (talk) 11:53, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

The draft is still rough. More attention needs to be paid to grammar and style. I'm also not clear what the connection is between student housing and inequality. Does student housing exacerbate inequality? Does it ameliorate inequality? Is the cost of student housing a factor in inequality? I'm just not clear from the draft what the topic is.Mcassell04 (talk) 13:33, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I would work to streamline the language and phrasing so it more closely resembles an encyclopedia entry. For example your opening sentence "Student housing has become somewhat of a key decision maker for students enrolled in college today," you might remove the word somewhat. I'm unfamiliar with the literature on the topic, so I don't know if the issue at hand is often referred to as a crisis. If not you might consider removing it because of its normative connotations. You should have a citation for the 56,000 student statistic in the opening paragraph. For the scope of the assignment, I think it might be ambitious to include international housing as well, because as you note there is a distinct set of issues surrounding it. On the whole, your topic is a very interesting, and one I know little about. I look forward to seeing you develop it. RobLierenz (talk) 15:11, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

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Too many words
The draft needs more editing. It still reads like a first draft. Go through and remove any excess words. For example, here's your paragraph: Student housing has become somewhat of a key decision maker for students enrolled in college today. Though looking more closely at the issue it, it can be described as a double edged sword. This of course referring those who can find place to live, though barely afford and those who cannot find a place to all. In some instances it has left 56,000 students homeless. In most cases the data is just not available as it has just recently been addressed as a potential cause for lower graduation rates.

Student housing is a factor in where student enroll in college today. Student housing is a double edged sword. This of course referring those who can find place to live, though barely afford and those who cannot find a place to all. ** I have no idea what the preceding sentence means** The lack of student housing has left 56,000 students homeless in Portgage County. In most cases the data are not available as it has just recently been addressed as a potential cause for lower graduation rates. **The preceding sentence doesn't make sense**

Are you planning on inserting this in the Wikipedia article "Portage County"? Or is this a stand alone article? You also need links to other wikipedia articles as well as scholarship on student housing.131.123.61.20 (talk) 20:03, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

I saw that you decided to change your topic to housing inequality in Ohio. However, I do not see anything but the titles of what each section you plan on creating. Do you have a final article that maybe I'm just not finding? if so, post a link so I can peer review it. As far as inequality in Ohio goes: if I were writing this article I would Focus on the challenges of buying a home by focusing on the home ownership rates between income classes in Ohio. Furthermore, I would compare and contrast the inequalities in housing based on race. Historically, minorities had a much more difficult time purchasing homes than whites, Does this still happen today? I would also research whether there is a difference in housing inequality between suburbs and urban areas. These are just some of my thoughts on the issue, but if you have a more complete article that I can look at and review please send me a link so I can give you a better peer review. Ray.Paoletta (talk) 22:51, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Essentially I can only echo Ray's comment. I presume that you have a more developed article, but since there's no link I'm not quite sure how to find it. If you update the sandbox with a link that would be helpful, and then I'd be glad to offer some feedback. The topic itself (if it is indeed housing inequality in Ohio) sounds interesting. Jmartin93 (talk) 04:05, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the updated link. Sorry about what happened though, always sucks to lose progress. The main thing I can say from looking at what you do have, however, is that fixing the format should be a priority. I see that you have the article split into sections, but it seems that you made them as subheadings rather than regular headings. This should be a relatively easy fix--I found that hitting "edit" instead of "edit source" offers a more intuitive editing experience that should make it easier than the coding you have to go through in the standard mode. A contents table would also be useful.

In addition to that, definitely try to elaborate on the different discussion points you're presenting. You probably already had all of this before you lost the data, but just make sure to discuss (as generally, non-biased as possible) the history, causes, effects and proposed solutions of housing inequality. Your current listed effects include foreclosures and evictions, but you could also explore how housing inequality could potentially lead to de facto school segregation. I didn't get to read this article fully, but it seems to be a good commentary on the situation: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/05/15/housing-segregation-is-holding-back-the-promise-of-brown-v-board-of-education/

Lastly, you may want to consider using your information not as a standalone article, but as a revision to another. There is a general "housing inequality" article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_inequality) that includes an international section, so you could edit that by inserting an "in the United States" section then putting your information about Ohio under that. This could still very well work as its own thing, but combining your article with that one is definitely an option. Hope this helped! Jmartin93 (talk) 22:17, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I am assuming you are still in the process of building your article given that many of the sections are incomplete and I am unable to find it. I am not sure if it is your intention to leave the housing programs you listed undefined, but if it is i would recommend not doing so. I would link each title to a wikipedia page for the program if available and then I would in one to two sentences describe what it is you are listing. Also I would suggest using the "automatic" citation format for weblinks, you simply copy and paste the URL and the citation is created for you. I initially cited in the way that you did and for the sake of the organization of my article I went back and redid it in the "automatic" format. To change the citations I went to the "edit source" tab, deleted the citation code, saved the page and then copy and pasted the same URL (from your source) into the automatic cite option. It is a bit time consuming but in my opinion easier to view for a reader. I would also agree with my fellow classmates that you should try to attach this a sub page to another stand alone wiki article. If you do not choose to do so feel free to view my sandbox article (Twright3293 Welfare for Athens County, Ohio) on the page I have a couple programs in place for Ohioans who suffer from the high rates of inequality in regards to housing. Twright3293 (talk) 17:34, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Roll into housing inequality article
This article is pretty general and has issues (essay, sourcing, orphan, etc). The information could be better served if rolled into the general housing inequality article with perhaps a new section in that article that discusses housing inequality per state and/or country. 9H48F (talk) 20:29, 6 July 2022 (UTC)