Talk:Howard Sims

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Harlem Sandman
This is the title of a supposed short film Sims made with Count Basie. The only sources I could find for Sims and Basie working together are this National Endowment for the Arts writeup and this obituary, which seems to have taken some of its other information sloppily from existing sources. Source 1 says, "in the late 1930s*, he moved to New York City, after appearing in a film with Count Basie, The Harlem Sandman." Source 2 puts it, "He toured extensively with the Lionel Hampton band and made a short movie with Count Basie called Harlem Sandman."

Now, there was a 1943 film called Hit Parade of 1943, which Basie is well-attributed as having been in. There was a segment in the film in which Basie performed the song "Harlem Sandman" (be weird for Sandman Sims to have been called "the Harlem Sandman" four years before he ever set foot in NYC) and various performers danced. Some of the Harlem Sandman dancers apparently went unmentioned in the original credits, but IMDB has three of them listed as "uncredited" Harlem Sandman dancers. Still no mention of Howard Sims, even though you might think a fan would have corrected the omission if it really were one.

Still, I had been going with the idea that the title given in those two sources was referring to the segment in the Hit Parade film, and that it should be listed in Sims's filmography. Then I decided to see if there was anything on YouTube. The uploader titled this, "Dorothy Dandridge, Count Basie, Pops & Louis... Hit Parade of 1943" and it appears to be the entire "Harlem Sandman" sequence from that film. It is itself a convincing argument that Sims was not in the film, because the titular Sandman in the Basie sequence is based on the sleep-bringing sandman of legend; while there is tap dancing in the scene, none of it takes place on sand.

I'm leaving this here on the talk page in hopes of heading off future disputes over whether Hit Parade of 1943 or the mythical "Harlem Sandman short film" should be included in Sims's filmography. I hope I've made the case that neither title should.

* Since every single other source that gives a date for this move put it in 1947, I think it's fair to call "1930s" a typo for 1940s. —GrammarFascist (talk) 19:54, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Independent review of the nomination is needed. —GrammarFascist (talk) 19:41, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

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