Talk:Howard Wright 1910 Biplane

Gnome and other stuff
It was originally powered by a 50 hp Gnome air-cooled radial engine, but the prototype was later fitted with a 60 hp E.N.V. water-cooled engine Just a few points I dont think any of them were re-engined Sopwiths was always ENV Powered, the later build "racing pattern" aircraft had the Gnomes. It implies that Sopwiths was the prototype but it was possibly the third build machine, the prototype ended up with the Army. Thoughts. MilborneOne (talk) 14:27, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the re-engined prototype mention comes from Penrose, who also seems to be a refererence for believing the monoplane that Sopwith bought, bent and sold was the monoplane displayed by Wright at Olympia that year, which is also referred to as an Avis. Sometimes there are more names than airframes for some of these early things... You're very welcome to change it!. I can't come up with a proper first flown for the type anyway.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLongTone (talk • contribs) 14:50, 29 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Ransome & Fairclough's EE Aircraft has roughly:

Still confusing! MilborneOne (talk) 15:12, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * 1 ENV Powered ff August 1910 at Larkhill with Maitland, passed to Watkins sold to Army on opening day of the 1911 Olympia as "F3"
 * 2 ENV Powered built for John Dones aka Jack Dare delivered to Eastchurch September 1910 bought by Watkins and later owned by W D Johnstone.
 * 3 ENV Powered To Brooklands November 1910 for Sopwith later modifed for de Forest prize, displayed at Olympia by the Royal Aero Club then US tour, returned and used at Brooklands for training.
 * 4 ENV powered not flown uk but shipped to NZ for Walsh brothers.
 * ? ENV powered owned by W C England in Rangoon during the summer of 1912.
 * 1 Gnome powered racing pattern for Robert Loraine shown at 1911 Olympia
 * 2 Gnome powered racing pattern for Claude Grahame-White flown from late 1911 at Hendon and used by his school for training.
 * Seven! Not a bad pruduction run. I've only just found out about the coverage in the English Electric book, which I must get the Bristol librarys to send up from Yeovil. The machine sent to Rangoon is mentioned in Flight as having a 40 hp ENV, (and underpowered) and to have survived the ants very well while in storage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLongTone (talk • contribs) 17:23, 29 August 2011 (UTC)