Talk:Hsuehshan Tunnel

Tunnel Cost?
There are two very different cost listed for the building of the tunnel

Under Tunnel Construction the cost is listed as "a total of NT$90.6 billion (US$2.83 billion) to complete."

Under Tunnel Details "Total cost: NT$18,555,000,000 (US$562,273,000)"

This is a huge difference between the two cost. Any one know the real figure?

Plmerry (talk) 08:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Controversies of zero tolerance speeding enforcement
There are announcements and controversies of zero tolerance speeding enforcement suggesting that even 71 km/h over 70 km/h limit. Based on mathematical calculations, I hereby list the impact force index upon any crash using 70 km/h as 1.00:


 * 70 km/h: 1.00
 * 71 km/h: 1.03
 * 72 km/h: 1.06
 * 73 km/h: 1.09
 * 74 km/h: 1.12
 * 75 km/h: 1.15
 * 76 km/h: 1.18
 * 77 km/h: 1.21
 * 78 km/h: 1.24
 * 79 km/h: 1.27
 * 80 km/h: 1.31
 * 81 km/h: 1.34
 * 82 km/h: 1.37
 * 83 km/h: 1.41
 * 84 km/h: 1.44
 * 85 km/h: 1.47
 * 86 km/h: 1.51
 * 87 km/h: 1.54
 * 88 km/h: 1.58
 * 89 km/h: 1.62
 * 90 km/h: 1.65

Based on this, fining 71 km/h in the same way as 90 km/h is extremely unfair, so it is no wonder why some people scold the "bandit government". Those who can read Chinese may search "雪山隧道 超速 強盜政府" through Google. These phrases mean "Hsuehshan Tunnel", "speeding", "bandit governmeent".

Based on http://www.motorists.org, some strategies to contest speeding summonses include questioning the accuracy of the device and how the operators have been trained. I am unsure how fair and impartial Taiwanese Traffic Adjudication Bureaus are, but any motorists receiving speeding summonses should seriously think of pleading NOT GUILTY. Only frequently pleading not guilty will change the zero tolerance speeding enforcement while speedometers are not always accurate. Paying fines with bulk coins itself may not change the heavy enforcement as fine collecting offices may eventually get coin counting machines to reduce the burden of their clerks.--Jusjih 16:31, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

coordinates of the tunnel ends

 * West entrance: 121.7147 E, 24.9385 N
 * East entrance: 121.791 E, 24.8477 N —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.39.131.57 (talk) 19:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

coordinates of the eastern end
I looked at Google Earth and it seems much closer to 24.9384 N, 121.7146 E than what the article says. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.64.157.188 (talk) 05:25, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Too fast
"As of May 1, 2008, the speed limit has been raised to 80 km/h with a 10 km/h tolerance. At this speed a trip through the 12.9 km tunnel takes 8.6 minutes."

Actually, that would be the time at 90 km/h, not 80 km/h. AlexFekken (talk) 08:37, 9 April 2012 (UTC)