Talk:Hua Guofeng

Death
If he died in August 2008, how could he attend a ceremony for the 115th anniversary of Mao's birth in December 2008? The Chinese article listed as a reference (ref no 16) was written in May 2008, and as far as I can tell, it says nothing about Hua attending any Mao anniversary. It does confirm that Hua attended the 17th Party Congress in 2007.

Early life, the Lack of
I browsed thru 200 Chinese website's summaries, they say something like "Born in Jiaocheng, joined the Party in 38". There's no mentioning of his parents and family situation or education at all. How strange for a national leader. --Menchi 03:58 7 Jul 2003 (UTC)


 * Question on his birthdate: I'm looking at a source that says 1920: Wang, James C.F., Contemporary Chinese Politics: An Introduction (Prentice-Hall, New Jersey: 1980) p.35 I won't change that at this time, but I am adding some additional early life details. DOR (HK) (talk) 02:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Quit CPC?
It would be near impossible for an party elder like him to quit the CPC. Can the claim be backed up? If not it should be removed. -- Миборовский U 06:19, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I vaguely remember the Epoch Times saying something on this at some point, but you'd have to be pretty retarded to believe the Epoch Times.Hackers on steroids (talk) 01:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Birth name
The Chinese birth name and the pinyin do not correspond. The pinyin for the characters given 刘苏铸 should be Liu Suzhu not Liu Zhengrong. Eadamski 18:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Hua Pinyin Problem
Is there a reason the pinyin for Hua has a fourth tone marker instead of second tone? (140.247.10.133 15:58, 1 August 2007 (UTC))
 * The character has alternate pronunciations; first, second and fourth tones are all possible. I don't know which is correct here, so I won't change it.217.42.13.36 17:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Hua as a surname is hua4, hua=Zhongguo(China) is hua2. 213.197.27.252 (talk) 20:52, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

son of mao?
This guy was Mao's son, why isn't it in the article?--Asdfg12345 14:59, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * .... --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 05:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Because it is confirmed that he wasn't probably. Mlewan (talk) 18:41, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What is the evidence for this? Was it a DNA test? Was there any evidence that Mao believed Hua was his son? All worthy of comment, I'd say. --OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 18:43, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what evidence you want? The DNA evidence that he is not Mao's son is in the article quoted above. There is some kind of second hand quote in English of the same kind here. If you want evidence that he would be Mao's son, I do not think there is any at all, just guesses, like Victor Shih who says "My personal take is that Hua was indeed Mao's son, since little else could have explained his meteoric rise during the Cultural Revolution. He was not particularly "revolutionary" as Wang Hongwen was, but yet was always sheltered and promoted by Mao." That clearly is no real "evidence" at all. --Mlewan (talk) 10:56, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Mao was a shagmonster i spect he had lots of kids floating about and hua looks just like the big man too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.238.239 (talk) 21:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Leaving aside the 'shagmonster' point for a moment, the rumour of Hua's paternity is worthy of comment. Rumours, even unfounded ones, are well worth recording because people believe them and act upon them. For instance, it would be worth knowing whether the politburo or the Gang of Four believed Mao was Hua's father. How did they explain Mao's left-field choice of successor? (And he does look just like the murderous old sod in this picture ...) --OhNoPeedyPeebles (talk) 11:54, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Personally, I have nothing against if someone updates the article with a "debunked rumour" section. I just do not see any need for it myself. --Mlewan (talk) 18:55, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Translation of "中華抗日救國先鋒隊"
It was rendered as "Chinese Resistance against Japan Nation-saving Vanguard" before... Well, let's just say there has to be a better translation than this...?

I checked on Google, but the handful of results I did find are either direct quotations or paraphrasing of this article on Wikipedia, leading me to believe that it was an invention by a certain Wikipedian rather than an established form. In particular, the phrase "Nation-saving", which I found to be particularly awkward, had only one other isolated usage by the English edition of the Choson Ilbo, while "national salvation" is a well established phrase and widely used around the world.

Being a native speaker of Chinese, I decided to be bold and make the change; please feel free to change if you think you have a better one :) 14.104.200.30 (talk) 12:26, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Early Life date error?
Should this be 1951? "Hua moved with the PLA to Hunan in 1949, where he married Han Zhijun in January, and remained there as a local official until 1971." Tigerman2005 (talk) 04:38, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

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