Talk:Hudson Line (Metro-North)

Paint scheme
If anyone wants to get a pic of the new Genesis paint scheme, #203 is in regular use on the Hudson Line right now. Daniel Case 04:29, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Took months, but see here. Daniel Case (talk) 21:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Croton-Harmon
Is Croton-Harmon north or south of Ossining? The Station Listing table and the Infobox diagram show them in different order. My recollection was that the tracks were electrified in Ossining. - Gyrofrog (talk) 17:53, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * CH is north of Ossining. Doniago (talk) 19:14, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Station Chart Corrections
I don’t know how to edit it, but concerning the Route Map at the right of the page: 1.) Zone 10 [over] 9 should read 9 [over] 8. 2.) More corrections or missing information follow (highlighted in bold)-  Poughkeepsie to GCT:

CSX - Hudson Division, Walkway Over the Hudson (Previously Central New England Railroad Bridge), Poughkeepsie, FDR Mid-Hudson Bridge, Camelot (closed) 2, New Hamburg, Wappingers Creek, Bank Street – Crossing at grade, Chelsea (closed) 2, Newbugh-Beacon Bridge (I-84), Beacon (previously “Fishkill Landing”), Diverging from Beacon Line (Arrow is incorrect? Track diverges to the West, and then crosses over the Hudson Line toward the East.), Fishkill Creek, Dutchess Junction (closed) 2, Breakneck Ridge (Not a flag stop.  Metro-North train service is limited, but regular.), Breakneck Tunnel, Cold Spring, Garrison Tunnel, Garrison, Manitou Road – Public crossing at grade, Manitou (Not a flag stop.  Metro-North train service is limited, but regular.), Bear Mountain Bridge (over Anthony’s Nose Tunnel), Anthony’s Nose Tunnel (aka: “Fort Montgomery Tunnel”), Middle Tunnel, Little Tunnel, Roa Hook (closed) – Was WWII military debarkation point for GI’s at Camp Smith 2, Annsville Creek, Hudson Avenue – Public crossing at grade, Peekskill, Montrose (closed), Crugers (closed), Oscawana Tunnel (This should be NORTH of Oscawana Station), Oscawana (closed), West Yard (CSX), End of electrification (This should be NORTH of Croton North Station), Croton North (closed), Croton-Harmon, Croton River, Ossining (previously “Sing Sing”), Scarborough, Philipse Manor (previously “North Tarrytown”), Tarrytown, Tappan Zee Bridge, Irvington, Ardsley, Dobbs Ferry, Hastings, Greystone, Glenwood, Yonkers, Ludlow, Mt. Saint Vincent (closed), Riverdale, Line to Penn Station, Spuyten Duyvil, Marble Hill, Broadway Bridge, Diverging from old Putnam Line (“BN Yard”), University Heights Bridge, University Heights, Morris Heights, Washington Bridge (I-95), Alexander Hamilton Bridge, High Bridge Aqueduct, '''High Bridge Station (closed) - Original terminus of electrification from GCT, before being extended to Croton; and transfer station for old Putnam Line trains. 1, High Bridge Yard, Major Deegan Expressway, Yankees-East 153rd Street, Diverging from Harlem/New Haven Lines (old “Mott Haven Yard”), 138th Street Station (closed), Major Deegan Expressway, Park Avenue Bridge, Harlem-125th Street Station, 110th Street Station (closed), Park Avenue Tunnel, 86th Street Station (closed), 72nd Street Station (closed) 1, 59th Street Station (closed) 1''', Grand Central Terminal

1 - Scientific American, nine-part series in the winter of 1874-1875, “THE UNDERGROUND RAILWAY, NEW YORK CITY.” (see: http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/beach/chapter13.html) 2 – Metro-North’s Hudson Line- Poughkeepsie to Oscawana (2004), Thomas V. Panettiere All other corrections are clearly visible on Google maps.

Conductor2 (talk) 20:45, 20 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I've got a source that called "Roa Hook" NYCRR station Red Hook (NYCRR station). (http://www.stationreporter.net/hudson.htm) That makes a lot more sense to me. -User:DanTD (talk) 05:15, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

"Park Avenue Bridge over Hudson River" should be "Park Avenue Bridge over Harlem River." Marty39 (talk) 16:01, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Green color code origins?
I know the official color code for the Hudson Line is green, but where did the color originate? The Harlem Line mentions the reasons for the blue color code for that line, and the New Haven Line's red color code is obviously for the former New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad, but why no info on green for the Hudson Line? DanTD (talk) 01:05, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

155th Street wreck in 1973
Does anybody have any info on the wreck from 155th Street in October 1973 shown here? -User:DanTD (talk) 14:30, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Some stations closed on holidays
According to an old timetable owned by User:Usroadman, Rhinecliff–Kingston (Amtrak station), Barrytown (NYCRR station), Germantown (NYCRR station), and Hudson (Amtrak station) were closed on the days after Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's Day and George Washington's Birthday(https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadandrailpictures/8068978225/). Any reason those particular stations closed on those days while every other one was opened? -User:DanTD (talk) 19:09, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


 * That appears to indicate that those two trains (the 7.11 Poughkeepsie local and the 8.37 Peekskill local) will not run on those days, not that it has anything to do with those stations. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:18, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Ah, yeah. I missed that. Still looks like quite the anomaly. -User:DanTD (talk) 03:02, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep. Indeed, Barrytown and Hudson were served by the 6:45 AM out of Albany in the same image, and presumably the others were served by other trains. Smartyllama (talk) 17:01, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

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End of Albany service
When did non-Amtrak service north of Poughkeepsie end? The text of the article implies 1976, but the table implies 1981. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:46, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Bad as0.mta.info links?
The links on the various station pages to http://as0.mta.info/mnr/mstations/station_status_display.cfm do not seem to be reliably correct anymore. For instance, Yonkers and Greystone are now IDs 18 and 20, when previously they were (I assume) 102 and 104 (and I assume many more are broken). Consequently the links on the station pages, e.g. Yonkers station to 102 don't work. Does someone have a tool to update all of these en masse? (Also, I gather this web interface has been around for years, although MNR sure does not publicize it very well! I had looked for such a thing for quite a while months/years ago and never found it, and only randomly chanced upon it today via the EL section of station page!) ping:. jhawkinson (talk) 00:10, 17 February 2020 (UTC)


 * ✅ sorry for the 9-month delay, I forgot about this issue!
 * Well. It appears that Template:MNR links was developed with this in mind, but never got that far? I enhanced it (with a subsidary template…) to deal with the station status displays, where available, and remove all the hardcoded as0 links. Also, moved the Danbury and Waterbury branches of the New Haven Line to use MNR links while I was there. jhawkinson (talk) 06:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

hurricane Ida storm damage
this line is running reduced weekday service still this week. with more than 3 weeks of service reductions planned I guess this damage must be notable but I haven't specifically looked for sources. The governor gave a speech in Yonkers a couple days after storm.

"On Monday, Sept. 20, a new weekday schedule will go into effect that reflects the ongoing effort to rebuild the damaged section in Dobbs Ferry. Please check back here for updates." Jeremyb (talk) 15:08, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Hatnote
See WP:RELATED. As the names of the articles are not similar, and "west of Hudson" is not mentioned in the hatnote (nor should it be), the hatnote is incorrectly used and unneeded. oknazevad (talk) 19:56, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I've revised the note to specifically mention the links are Metro-North lines west of the Hudson. I disagree that these lines shouldn't be mentioned. Using Wikipedia's internal search engine for "Metro-North West of Hudson" lists this article first. Googling "Metro-North West of Hudson" also brings up this article as the first Wikipedia entry. WP:Hatnote notes such disambiguation links should be provided "...only if there is a reasonable possibility of a reader arriving at the article either by mistake or with another topic in mind"; it is my firm opinion that such a reasonable possibility exists. –Zfish118⋉talk 22:56, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

East of Hudson and West of Hudson
Per the Metro-North official schedules, the lines are reffered to as East of Hudson and West of Hudson. It is appropriate to cross link the the East of Hudson and West of Hudson lines. Please seek another opinion if you disagree. (https://new.mta.info/agency/metro-north-railroad/schedules) –Zfish118⋉talk 15:15, 2 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Zfish118: Two different editors have reverted your addition, and one of them started a talk page section that you ignored. "West of Hudson" is not sufficiently similar to need disambiguation, especially since the WOH lines are discussed in detail on the Metro-North Railroad article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:16, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * My apologies. The edit summary "not even close" did not appear to be an invitation to a discussion in progress. Please see my reply above. –Zfish118⋉talk 23:01, 4 September 2023 (UTC)