Talk:Hudson Pacific Properties

Edit Request
NOTE: I am proposing this edit for FleishmanHillard on behalf of Hudson Pacific Properties I am a paid editor and aware of the COI guidelines. I am submitting this edit request to propose edits that would correct out-of-date information and add further information about the company. I’ve provided an overview of proposed edits below. Thanks for your time and consideration. Taylorcanderson (talk) 22:54, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Edits have been considered. Please see below. Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Lead Section


 * First sentence of lead section: Propose updating to reflect correct total amount of owned square feet across both office buildings and studios (19 million) and adding in Canada as region in which the company operates. Updated, changes would appear as follows (adds/edited portions in bold):

Hudson Pacific Properties is a real estate investment trust with a portfolio totaling approximately 19 million square feet of office buildings and studio properties on the West Coast of the United States and Canada. It is organized in Maryland and headquartered in Los Angeles.


 * I added most of your suggestions. I did not include "portfolio" because I thought it was redundant and kept Vancouver instead of Canada because I did not see evidence that they own property in Canada outside of Vancouver. Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Propose adding the following sentence to lead section:

Hudson Pacific is the largest independent operator of sound stages in Los Angeles.


 * ✅. Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Second line of current lead: Per the source, Google is one of the two largest of the company’s tenants, not Alphabet, Inc. Propose changing “Alphabet, Inc.” to “Google.” Updated, changes would appear as follows (revision in bold):

As of December 31, 2019, the two largest tenants of the company were Google and Netflix, which together accounted for 15.2% of revenues.


 * ✅ Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Suggest removing the following line in the lead section due to lack of sourcing:

The Glaser-Kochavi family is a major shareholder and has seats on the board of directors.


 * ❌ The source in the article supports this statement. If you have a source that is more recent, I can consider changing this. Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

History


 * First sentence: Proposing revision to correct the actual origin of the company. Updated, this sentence would appear as follows (adds/edited portions in bold):

The company was originally founded as Hudson Capital by Victor J. Coleman.


 * ✅ Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Proposed additions after the first line to add additional information to History section and clarify origin of Hudson Pacific Properties:

In 2007, Hudson Capital purchased Sunset Gower Studios, the former Hollywood headquarters of Columbia Pictures, followed by the purchase of Sunset Bronson Studios, the original home of |Warner Brothers Studios, in 2008. Hudson Capital was re-named and formed as Hudson Pacific Properties in 2009.


 * ✅ with some copy-editing. We don't need to mention the history of the studios in this article. If readers want more information, they can click on the wiki-links. Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Proposed addition after the existing second line with additional information to flesh out the History section:

In September 2014, Hudson Pacific broke ground on two media campuses, ICON and CUE, at Sunset Bronson Studios in Los Angeles. In September 2017, Hudson Pacific began the development of EPIC, a 13-story office building in Hollywood, which was the first commercial building in Los Angeles to use solar energy-generating technology in the building’s façade. The building was leased to Netflix in 2018.


 * I did not add information about ICON and CUE. Both sources are about future buildings and Wikipedia does not predict what will happen. When they are built (as ICON might already be built?) you can propose a new edit request with an updated source. I moved the EPIC building to 2019 as that is when it was built according to its source and did not include the Netflix information because the source was talking about a future event. Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Suggest updating the existing third line the History section with related information about the result of the Blackstone Group acquisition. Updated, this sentence would appear as follows (adds/edited portions in bold):

In December 2014, the company acquired 26 properties in Northern California from The Blackstone Group’s EQ Office for $3.5 billion. This led to Hudson Pacific becoming the largest publicly traded owner-operator of office space in Silicon Valley .


 * ✅ with some minor copy-editing. Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

In January 2019, the company announced the redevelopment of Westside Pavilion into an office building known as One Westside, which was leased to Google.
 * Propose revising the existing fourth line in the History section to add redevelopment’s name and correct name of lease (per source below, it is Google, not Alphabet, Inc.) Updated, this sentence would appear as follows (adds/edited portions in bold):


 * ❌ I removed this information because WP:CRYSTAL. When the building is done, provide a source and we can re-add it.Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Propose revising the existing fifth line in History section for additional detail about joint venture with The Blackstone Group. Updated, this sentence would appear as follows (adds/edited portions in bold):

In March 2019, Hudson Pacific formed a joint venture with The Blackstone Group to invest in Vancouver with the purchase of the Bentall Centre, in downtown Vancouver.


 * ✅ with minor copy-edit. Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Taylorcanderson (talk) 22:54, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I was going to start on this edit request, but I noticed that you started making some edits today. Are you planning to finish it? — motevets (talk) 21:49, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and finish it. I was just casually filling in references. Graywalls (talk) 21:54, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Have the edits above been assessed? If not, can I consider this request later this week? Z1720 (talk) 02:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Since I did not get a response from Graywalls or Motevets, I decided to consider this edit myself. I have made notes under each section above with an explanation of my rationale. I have also closed this request. If more edits are requested, please visit Template:Request edit/Instructions for more information. If there are any questions or comments please post them below. Happy editing! Z1720 (talk) 02:23, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Please see below for updated language and sources to hopefully complete the partly done and not changes from the edit request submitted on July 17, 2020. Thank you for your consideration! Taylorcanderson (talk) 22:25, 14 January 2021 (UTC) The Vanguard Group is the largest institutional shareholder.
 * Copy to replace: The Glaser-Kochavi family is a major shareholder and has seats on the board of directors:


 * I decided to just remove this sentence altogether. I don't think it is notable that a group, who owns less than 14% of the shares according to the above source, is the largest shareholder. If someone disagrees with me they can add it back in. Z1720 (talk) 02:30, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

The building was leased to Netflix in 2018.
 * Updated sentence and new source for sentence on Netflix:


 * Please clarify: where in the article does this go? Please give the sentence that would proceed this one.

In January 2019, the company leased One Westside, formerly known as the Westside Pavilion mall, to Google for their Los Angeles offices.
 * Updated the sentence on One Westside to discuss the lease and exclude any mention of the in progress development project:
 * Please clarify: where in the article does this go? Please give the sentence that would proceed this one.


 * Comments have been added to the request above. Z1720 (talk) 02:30, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your response! I’ve clarified the specific placement of the sentences below. Appreciate your consideration! Taylorcanderson (talk) 20:55, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The following sentences would be the final sentences in the article, coming after this sentence: Later in the year Hudson Pacific finished construction on Epic, which was the first office tower in Los Angeles to include solar energy-generating technology in the building’s walls.

The building was leased to Netflix in 2018. In January 2019, the company leased One Westside, formerly known as the Westside Pavilion mall, to Google for their Los Angeles offices.


 * Hi, I did not add the first sentence about Netlifx because the source does not confirm the 2018 date. I added the information about One Westside. Z1720 (talk) 22:06, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Edit Request: Infobox
NOTE: I’m proposing the following edits for FleishmanHillard on behalf of Hudson Pacific Properties. I am a paid editor and aware of the COI guidelines. Below, I’ve outlined requested edits to the infobox to address outdated financial info and correct an incorrect title for one of the key people listed. Thanks for your time and consideration. Jon Gray (talk) 21:23, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Infobox


 * Mark T. Lammas is listed as the company’s CFO, but he was named company president in December 2019. In light of that, I suggest changing his title from “CFO” to “President.”


 * 2021 financial and employee figures are now available via the company’s most recent 10-K filing, so I propose updating the following fields of the infobox to reflect the most up to date information. New information proposed to replace the outdated info is below (in bold) w/sourcing:


 * Revenue: US$897 million (2021) 


 * Net income: US$29 million (2021) 


 * Total assets: US$8.99 billion (2021) 


 * Total equity: US$4.197 billion (2021) 


 * Number of employees: 560 (2021) 
 * ✅ I additionally updated other figures in the lead section based on 2021 Annual Report. Also, the equity figure should exclude non-controlling interest (so, just the total equity attributable to shareholders) Ptrnext (talk) 08:33, 9 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Jon Gray (talk) 15:22, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Largest tenant
I removed the list, because it is based on government record (primary source). I believe including it basically amounts to "client list". If independent reliable, secondary source don't bring attention to who their largest tenants are, I don't believe it's mention worthy. Name dropping famous clients is something public relations and marketing routinely do. Graywalls (talk) 00:59, 12 July 2022 (UTC)


 * The original list (that too in the lead section) had to go. But mentioning its largest tenant or two should be OK, no? LA Times have mentioned some large tenants in the past. Ptrnext (talk) 16:27, 15 July 2022 (UTC)


 * NOTE: I’m proposing the following edits for FleishmanHillard on behalf of Hudson Pacific Properties. I am a paid editor and aware of the COI guidelines.


 * Thank you both for weighing in on this. Removing the previous list makes sense. Per Ptrnext’s suggestion that at least some information about the largest tenants may be appropriate, I’d like to propose the following sentence (w/ Los Angeles Times as source) be added as the final sentence of the lead section:


 * The company’s largest tenants include Google, Netflix and Riot Games.


 * Thanks again for your input and consideration. Jon Gray (talk) 19:38, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I would apply WP:NOTEVERYTHING, WP:NOTWHOSWHO. I am not seeing encyclopedic value in who a property management company's largest tenant is. In the context of this article, it seems to only serve the purpose of name drop and trying to associate with famous household names. Graywalls (talk) 22:27, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Edit Request: History Section
NOTE: I’m proposing the following edits for FleishmanHillard on behalf of Hudson Pacific Properties. I am a paid editor and aware of the COI guidelines. Below, I’ve outlined requested edits to the History section to add updates about the company that have occurred over the past year or so. Thanks for your time and consideration. Jon Gray (talk) 11:38, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

History

Propose adding the following sentences to the end of the history section to offer more historical information from 2021 (currently, history “ends” at 2020). Proposed additions are in bold and sourcing is below as well:

'''In July 2021, the company announced the development of Sunset Glenoaks, a studio in the Sun Valley neighborhood of Los Angeles. In August 2021, Hudson Pacific and Blackstone Real Estate Group Europe announced plans to develop a 91-acre studio facility north of Central London.'''
 * ✅ Ptrnext (talk) 05:34, 26 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Jon Gray (talk) 17:44, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Non-encyclopedic contents in general
So as I look through this, I am finding excessive inclusion of routine announcements such as plans for development and miscellaneous blow-by-blow acquisitions. Those things are probably not all that useful in an encyclopedia as these small details are something people would go to the company's website to get. Seeking input from editors not acting on behalf of the article subject company. Graywalls (talk) 03:47, 27 August 2022 (UTC)