Talk:Hudson Yards (development)

Commments
This article is very much under construction at the moment, and I'm sure I will reorganize it.--MainlyTwelve (talk) 21:51, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I'd like to submit a revision to this page. The "Design" section notes that Kohn Pedersen Fox is responsible for the master plan and only two buildings on the site, but in fact the firm designed four buildings (towers 10, 30, and 55 as well as the retail building with Elkus Manfredi Architects). This is all previously mentioned in each building's individual section, and also outlined here: Thank you! HenryHampton (talk) 20:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Popular culture section
I removed these entries as they are un-referenced per WP:V and WP:RS. epicgenius (talk)

Entries
Hudson Yards can be seen through the window when Dmitri is running on a treadmill. It can later be seen when Dmitri is on the phone outside at night in the horror movie, The First Purge (2018).

In the 2018 comedy movie, Like Father, when Rachel and her father (Harry) return to New York from a cruise, the Manhattan skyline is shown with the Statue of Liberty. Hudson Yards can be seen in the distance.

Hudson Yards can be seen in the second season of Iron Fist.

In the 2018 movie Pad Man, Lakshmikant is invited to speak at the United Nations. He explains the Statue of Liberty and it then shows the Statue with Hudson Yards visible in the background. The complex is also seen in a montage of establishing shots.

In the drama comedy film, Someone Great (2019), Hudson Yards can be seen in a night establishing shot of Midtown Manhattan.

Hudson Yards can be seen through the window when Ray and Erick are eating in a restaurant. This is in the 2019 movie, High Flying Bird.

In the 3rd season of the Netflix Original Series Marvels Jessica Jones: Hudson Yards can be seen under construction in some episodes. In the 2nd episode it can be seen down the avenue when Trish is walking into a building.

Image
Recently promoted FP on Commons taken from the west side of Manhattan has a view that's not quite represented in the article. As there are an awful lot of images in here already, though (and given it's a bit wide), I'm just going to put it here and leave it to other editors to judge whether it should be added. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 17:53, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Just a heads up that I replaced the infobox image with a different one recently promoted to FP on Commons.

It's a 43 megapixel panorama taken from the top floor of Hudson Commons, and it seemed particularly well suited for an infobox image. Leaving this message here because I feel slightly uncomfortable adding a second prominently displayed image in the article. Please revert if controversial. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 22:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

50 Hudson Yards / Foster and Partners
With regards to this revert, Foster and Partners is not responsible for the master plan. So it would not be correct to name them in the "architect" parameter of the infobox. However, they do seem to be the architects of 50 Hudson Yards by itself. I think this can be noted in the infobox, but with a parenthetical note such as "50 Hudson Yards only". epicgenius (talk) 20:10, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

I have just done the above. epicgenius (talk) 20:22, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

It's master plane designed by Foster and Partners from Hudson yards official site https://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/work/50-hudson-yards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.6.155.158 (talk) 06:59, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * That's not what the site says, though. It says that Foster and Partners designed 50HY, but nothing about the actual master plan. epicgenius (talk) 20:56, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Comments for a future FAC
Continuing from yesterday, if this article is a viable FA candidate in the future, it will need to be polished a little. Right now I think it meets GA criteria, but for FA, I'd recommend the following:
 * We need to standardize the citations. All citations should use WP:CS1 templates because the majority of them already are CS1 citations. We need to look at the author, work, and publisher fields to see if all works from the same website are consistently formatted. For instance, should it be New York Post or The New York Post? In addition, we have to check if all citation titles match up with the ones in the sources. If there are any dead links, they should probably be fixed. If a field such as access-date is provided for all similar templates like cite web, it should be consistently applied; e.g. there shouldn't be any cite web template that has no access-date.
 * In general, we should make sure there isn't any out of date information. Since the first phase of Hudson Yards was completed only a few years ago, there still may be some sentences that have a future/present tense when it should be past tense.
 * We should also ensure that no significant fact is unsourced, especially one that may be contested. It's all right to not use a source for obvious stuff, like Hudson Yards is in Manhattan.
 * The grammar should also be reviewed thoroughly. FACs can and have been archived due to poor grammar. I suggest WP:GOCE and/or WP:PR, but also see User:Tony1/How to improve your writing, which has some good exercises for how to do this.
 * For the site and structures section, I would make sure that the summary of information is consistent for each building. For example, height should either be mentioned for all the towers or for none of them. For the other sections, I would make sure all the information is comprehensive, especially the history. While all important historical aspects should be mentioned, it shouldn't go into too much detail about unrelated developments.
 * My largest concern is that the article may still fail FAC if enough reviewers do not think this page is complete, due to Phase 2 not having been completed. This may not occur for several years. This is a reason why Featured article candidates/One World Trade Center/archive1 had failed six years ago (before I really got the hang of FA criteria).

I hope this feedback helps. Epicgenius (talk) 18:13, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . I will start working soon, even if the fact that it's not complete might get in the way it would be good to do some improvements. — Mainly 22:20, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Goldman involvement and withdrawal
Does anyone know why (with source) Goldman Sachs withdrew from the project? — Mainly 20:39, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

chart
Hey, I think it would be helpful to add to the page a chart like This one showing the buildings of the New World Trade Center, with pictures of the buildings. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.202.19 (talk) 16:00, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * There was a further or similar request here on the article page itself, from . Since we don't discuss articles within themselves, I am moving it here. It was under the header "Site and structures" and reads Please add a reference chart of buildings in this section. Hope this helps, best to all, DBaK (talk) 23:15, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I think such a table is unnecessary. Every building in the complex is already adequately summarized in prose, and a table already exists in Hudson Yards, Manhattan, but of course others may disagree. (I also think the WTC table is unnecessary, but it seems to help people, so I could add one here if there's agreement that it would also help for the HY article.) – Epicgenius (talk) 14:18, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, that was also me, AAEexecutive (talk) 18:02, 10 November 2021 (UTC). Really what I'm looking for is pictures of all the buildings in one place like in the WTC article, but I guess a whole chart would probably be unnecessary. Maybe there could be a picture column in the Hudson Yards, Manhattan chart. AAEexecutive (talk) 18:02, 10 November 2021 (UTC)