Talk:Hugh O'Brian

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I corrected the age at which he got married. If he was born April 19, 1925, he was 81 years old on June 25, 2006, not 82 as the article had said. 205.189.17.16 13:05, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I saw Hugh in his travelling western stage show in Melbourne. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.165.30 (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

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1923 or 1925?
Many sources say he was born in 1923. (81.153.133.135 (talk) 20:57, 5 September 2016 (UTC))


 * Can you post some of the "many" ?  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 23:49, 5 September 2016 (UTC)


 * There are several saying he was 19 in 1942 and at college. (165.120.240.248 (talk) 13:04, 6 September 2016 (UTC))

Date of Death
He died on September 5, 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.64.217.66 (talk) 13:12, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

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Circular Source
About the Hugh O'Brian lineage. The last source I used was the Ethnicity of Celebs page, https://ethnicelebs.com/hugh-obrian, and you took it out and said in might be a circular source. I assume that you mean they may have gotten their information from Wikipedia, but I looked at the bottom of the article and the sources they give are:

Sources: Hugh’s father on the 1910 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org Hugh’s mother on the 1900 U.S. Census – https://familysearch.org

Family Search is maintained by the Ladder-Day Saints, so please let me know if you think they are a good source. I can tell you from my own experience that many genealogists use their database.

Carlislejp51 (talk) 19:49, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * familysearch, like ancestry is not allowed because it constitutes original research. That being said, ethniccelebs still should not be used as it's definitely not reliable. Praxidicae (talk) 19:50, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Is there an easy way to find out when that line was added? I can tell you that it was added between January 18, 2016 and September 5, 2016. There is an obituary in The Guardian giving his parents ethnicity, but it was written on September 12, 2016. So it could be circular, too. Carlislejp51 (talk) 20:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not clear what "line" you're referring to.
 * Obituaries can be problematic, as they may not be fact-checked, depending upon the authorship.
 * The article needs some careful review, especially: the mention of three individuals claiming to be his children, his being a humanitarian, and the information about the Foundation. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 22:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I’m sorry, I should have been more clear. The line I’m talking about is:
 * "His paternal grandparents were immigrants from Germany; his mother was of half German and English/Scottish ancestry.[citation needed]"
 * The obituary is from The Guardian written by Anthony Hayward on September 12th 2016 not long after his death. It can be found here: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/sep/11/hugh-o-brian-obituary
 * I believe the line must be true, because I've seen it in so many places, but so far I cannot find a good reference. Please let me know what you think of the Guardian article. In the meantime, I'll keep looking. Carlislejp51 (talk) 03:47, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

(The above is copied from my talk page --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 15:25, 12 June 2020 (UTC))

The content was added here, with no apparent change to referencing. Best I can guess, it comes from the familysearch references, which are not reliable. The Guardian article may be ok to use.

I think we're echoing a lot of p.r. In contrast, note the content and wording from https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/arts/television/hugh-obrian-dies-dashing-tv-star-of-wyatt-earp-was-91.html --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 15:39, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

I keep running into articles that confirm his mother's ancestry, but from what I'm reading and seeing in some of his interviews it seems less important than the fact that his father was a marine. I'm going to use the NY Times obit for that and see what happens. -- Carlislejp51 (talk) 16:11, 12 June 2020 (UTC)